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coronavirus survivors

78 replies

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:10

Why don’t we hear about how many people have survived Coronavirus? Surely there are for more survivors than deaths, why isn’t this reported in the news?

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PammieDooveOrangeJoof · 01/04/2020 22:12

There must be lots of people who have had it, recovered and no one knows about as they aren’t being tested. Or have had it and don’t even know about it as they are asymptomatic.
Also guessing if there are people in the news saying hey I had it and I’m fine, people will be even bigger idiots than they are now with regards to going out and self distancing.

PammieDooveOrangeJoof · 01/04/2020 22:13

Plus the media love to scaremonger as that gets more clicks I guess

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:14

It makes the news all very one sided though, surely we should also have good news stories.

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Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:16

It would be nice to put this into prospective instead of all the scaremongering though.

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AwkwardPaws27 · 01/04/2020 22:20

According to the WHO report based on preliminary data from China:

Using available preliminary data, the median time from onset to clinical recovery for mild
cases is approximately 2 weeks and is 3-6 weeks for patients with severe or critical disease

So, given the exponential growth rate, the vast majority of UK cases are likely to still be experiencing symptoms and not yet recovered.

AwkwardPaws27 · 01/04/2020 22:21

Link to above report: <a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj4z6GJlMjoAhWOEMAKHYHLCacQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj4z6GJlMjoAhWOEMAKHYHLCacQFjAAegQIBRAB&usg=AOvVaw1gO_RTfaIWQuEkjdvq_O7i

Embracelife · 01/04/2020 22:22

It s very clear a lot of people with mild symptoms
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
But that s the problem
People with mild symptoms spreading it.
There is a yet no vaccine and the number of serious cases overwhelms the health services
Whether Italy nhs usa ..

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:22

Really so most people in the Uk won’t have recovered yet? What would you say 90% are still I’ll with the virus?

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lubeybooby · 01/04/2020 22:24

Most people will recover just fine, that's something that surely you don't need to keep hearing about, it's just a fact.

The measures in place are not meant to scare anyone it's just to help the nhs cope with so many needing assistance all at once - but they are still a tiny, tiny percentage of the population overall

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:25

So how many people as a percentage of the population get it mildly, do we know?

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raspberrymolakoff · 01/04/2020 22:26

This site has lots of statistics including recovered: www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:28

Well yes I think we need to know, to give prospective to this as it’s not all bad news and most people will recover.

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Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:31

Oh so from the link 95% of infected people will have mild conditions, is that correct?

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LooseleafTea · 01/04/2020 22:33

Gin96 I’m unsure as the Worldometer website says 95% of current cases are mild in the active case section but when you look at the ratio on the closed cases it looks more alarming and I wonder if it’s because so many recover without having been tested ? I wonder if anyone knows as this figure looks so high compared to elsewhere
www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Embracelife · 01/04/2020 22:33

Yes but if everyone gets it and 5 % are critical or did that is a lot of people sick
So if your town is 100,000 people and everyone gets it then it s 5,000 people critical serious or dead in short space of time. Think about it.

Embracelife · 01/04/2020 22:34

Critical or serious or dead that shld say

Embracelife · 01/04/2020 22:35

It s a virulent virus rapidly spread and easily spread . That is the problem

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:37

They say a high number of people getting it I think is 60% so say 100,000, 60,000 would get it and 5% would be critical that would be 3000 is that right?

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WoollyFoolly · 01/04/2020 22:39

@looseleaftea I think at this stage it's because it's quicker to 'progress' to a death rather than a recovery if you get what I mean. From symptoms to dying might be a week or two but from symptoms to discharge (bearing in mind that we are still only testing those ill enough to be admitted to hospital) might be 6 weeks or more. So when you get much further down the line, the ratio will swing back in favour of recoveries.
I believe that I have had it and am almost recovered after 2.5 weeks. On the whole it was very mild, I had 2 days where I thought I was going to need to seek medical help with breathing and if circumstances had been different, I would have definitely seen a GP.

LooseleafTea · 01/04/2020 22:40

But that is the statistic given for active cases and isn’t the statistic for closed cases more telling as active ones can still go either way ? But i don’t understand the figure for closed cases on this website as it looks much too high

recycledbottle · 01/04/2020 22:41

Its not about good news v bad news. 80% are mild. The rest require some form of hospitalisation with 5% needing ICU. This has been said multiple times. Statitics might change wirh more testing. Why do you want media to keep repeating that 80% are mild. We already know that. People are worried about the 20% not the 80%. They will be fine.

LooseleafTea · 01/04/2020 22:41

Ah Wooly that’s a sensible possibility I hadn’t thought of - thank you! Makes sense

Gin96 · 01/04/2020 22:41

We need to hear more stories like yours @LooseleafTea of everyone who has recovered and come out the other side 😊

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Embracelife · 01/04/2020 22:43

As bed numbers have fallen, England’s population has grown, from around 47.3 million in 1987 to approximately 56.0 million in 2018(Office for National Statistics 2019a). As a result, the number of beds per capita has fallen faster than the absolute reduction in number of beds. Over this period, the number of older people in England – who are more likely to access health care – has also increased (Office for National Statistics 2019b).