How do you honestly THINK this will end?

[tollyfeeder]

Just that really....

I’m a very anxious person. I can’t see a light at the end of this very dark tunnel.

My version of the end is that the virus continues to spread. It mutates to be even more dangerous, with a 100% mortality.
It can’t be contained.
Civilisation will be destroyed.

Those that manage to avoid it will have to find ways to survive until eventually they catch it too......

Please don’t lay into me for my “end”
Right now this is honestly how I’m thinking and it’s a really scary place to be in.

Seriously how does everyone else think this will end?

And as a species, we don’t sacrifice our vulnerable ones. We’ve stopped everything, plunged the world economy into free fall in an immense act of love to protect our weak and our old and give everyone a fighting chance.

This moved me to tears @Barbararara . Someone on Facebook posted something similar which I have attached and is also lovely to read.

@ninja, @WoollySheep462 and @MilkTrayLimeBarrel thanks for your encouraging words re. finding love . I sure hope you are all right because to never hug a man again would piss me right off . Maybe I will ditch the doom and gloom about it and yes, I suppose people must be doing video calling first dates!! I am very happy for you @ninja and hope it goes well with your new man .

I hope you feel less anxious OP - nighttime is the worst time for that.

Thanks to the person who mentioned Tim Bunn - or Blunn - can’t remember, I am also going to look him up.

@Pickles89, Spanish Flu absolutely DID NOT wipe out 1/5 of the world’s population at the time! Where did you get that?! It’s estimated about a quarter of the population caught it (500 million), of which 17-50m died, depending on which estimate you accept. So even the highes estimate is only 2.5% of the world’s population...

@tollyfeeder and that's the point.

People need to start thinking about others. People need to stop spreading fake news, stories that arent true, talking about the whole human race dying out.

Obviously factual converstations need to continue. But the amount of people, trying to make this horrendous thing worse, arent helping anyone.

Your “end” is ridiculous, you need to seek help.

I reckon it will probably just slow down eventually and not be as bad as had been feared initially, due to the measures that have been put in place, and then there will be immunity either through people having had it or a vaccine

Is this thread helping op or making it worse for you?

I could be a very anxious person too but I just have no imagination. I could have been an artist but I have no imagination etc.....

Thank you @Helpmechangemymindsetplease It's very lovely but also quite scary. Hard to know how to keep it up with the uncertainty of how long this will go on and what will be a lack of day to day things to talk about.

Op I think you have a new baby and that does tend to make you worry anyway about you or her dying and I think the virus has fed into that.

@ninja Yes I guess that might be an issue - what did you do today - erm - stayed at home, what about you ? I also get that it’s scary - I went on a few platonic dates with someone which lead to nothing (though we occasionally message as friends now which is nice) and I was terrified!

You will have to get creative - and if you are both working at the moment, get to know all about each others’ jobs in depth!! Maybe just schedule weekly video calls and message in between... think of all the lovely anticipation of when you can actually meet!

Am sounding a bit over invested soz!

Gosh that was meant to be the blushing emoji - sorry!!!!

(Not the angry one!)

(Also meant to say that my platonic dates were at the beginning of the year and it is really strange to me now that neither of us mentioned the coronavirus once!)

@ravenmum I’m not scaremongering! And if my post appears that way then it’s definitely not how it’s intended.

I, like a lot of people, am severely anxious about the current situation.

I’m a new Mum to a 7 week old baby and I’m really struggling to cope with my thoughts.

I have sought help. I have a weekly session of CBT which is carried out over the phone.
I use lots of anxiety apps. I do yoga and mindfulness, BUT, despite all of this, my thoughts race.

I see an awful ending for this situation we’re in.
That’s not me trying to scare anyone as that’s honestly the last thing I want to do.

That’s just my thoughts. I can’t shake that ending away from my mind.

My days should be spent enjoying my maternity leave happy with my beautiful baby.
Instead I’m an anxious mess worried that any day now I will develop symptoms, die and leave my baby without a mum.

I’m 34 years old, I have asthma and psoriatic arthritis. I stand little chance of survival.
Especially when I’m reading that young healthy people aren’t surviving, or that Drs aren’t surviving.

I’m sorry that I’ve posted several times now.
But my anxiety reaches such a level I just need to type it out and hear from other people.
I’m not trying to scare anyone!!

You are very likely to survive if you get it OP. It sounds like post natal anxiety is feeding into this.

I know you weren't trying to frighten anyone.

The human immune system is truly awesome. This is a new virus but once it’s no longer new and lots of us have had it it and developed antibodies it will lose its potency and be just another corona virus like the common cold. It might still in the future be worrying for the old and infirm like influenza but on the whole we will manage to live with it.

Honestly OP the amount of people on here who are CERTAIN they and their loved ones will die if they get it is ridiculous. Even “only” 15% (and I know that’s still a lot and sad) of people over 85 will die. I read the other day of someone with cystic fibrosis who had recovered.

OP I think you have been reading information and extrapolating. Every person who gets it has a higher chance of surviving it than not it just that can vary from 99.9% chance to lower.

The ending won’t be awful, we have survived much much worse pandemics as humans with far less resources. Yes people have and will die but as someone said life has 100% mortality rate no virus does or ever will (it’s just not effective for them they want to live too a dead host is no use)

Anxiety can take over, so if you need reassurance on here it’s better not to stop these types of threads where people are asking for help.

I think that having children makes us much more anxious. Well, it certainly did me. I was a very anxious child - with numerous OCD rituals to stave off my parents' and my death (I did not grow up in a stable household, which is key here) - but when I got older and had had a lot of therapy, I was fine. Then I had kids, and it came back. I have accepted this as part and parcel of my own recovery.

What I have learned: is to accept death as a necessary part of life; to unpick my fear of it bit by bit, first as a concept, and then - as I get older - as a lived experience. I still feel anxiety, and what helps is to make some space for it. But not too much. I will talk to myself like an adult talking to a scared child, and that helps: "Bertie, I understand you're feeling scared, but let's look at this rationally. I understand you need to feel heard, and I am here. I can't offer you reassurance, because I would be lying: no-one knows anything for sure. But what I do know is that it is very, very likely that nothing is quite as terrifying as your imagination."

I also remind myself of all those bumpy flights I have taken where I knew I was going to die. I did not. Our minds are amazing, and they can heal, and they can harm.

Honestly? We will be like this for a few months, then it'll gradually fizzle out and become a distant memory. It'll come round again by next flu season but by then we'll have better treatments, maybe a vaccine and some people will be immune so we'll have another round of social distancing but not as severe. Then we'll wade through another recession with high taxes and austerity measures. Eventually we'll come out the other side and more or less forget and carry on as we were.

This is my favourite thread so far. Lovely, sane voices.

As for the lady who thinks she'll never hug again because three months confined to barracks changed her from a hot prospect to an aged crone, mate you'll be fighting them off when we're allowed back out. Your currency will go up, not down!

The figures here in Ireland are looking positive and indicating that closing schools and workplaces and complying with social distancing guidelines is helping to flatten the curve sooner than they expected.

Obviously too soon to be definite but some reason for cautious optimism and for everyone to put their shoulder to the wheel rather than trying to find reasons to be exceptions to the rules.

Schaden You speak the most sense on this thread IMO. I HOPe this ends with us all being fully aware of our selfishness , (in flying everywhere for fun) .

Hopefully globalisation will be reined in (as it has now). It can be good but mostly the vast manufacturers make profits for faceless stockbrokers don't seem to give a shit about how badly our environment is affected.

If it gets a 100% mortality rate, it will be too fatal for it's own good.

People need to be ok with it to a certain extent in order to spread it.

SARS and bird flu don't have anywhere near 100% mortality but don't spread as effectively because more people die of it.

I don't remember the numbers but this is the gist of what I read.