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Would you vaccinate yourself against CV

366 replies

LaPerla · 30/03/2020 21:32

Would you be the first to vaccinate yourself/children against CV when the vaccine is available?

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SirChing · 31/03/2020 09:49

It depends. Having a flu jab one year put me in bed for six months with a flare up of fibromyalgia and I have never fully recovered since. The GP confirmed that the immune response to the jab can cause that to happen. I also developed shingles as part of the immune response.

I would be worried about the risks of immune response vs the risks of covid itself. So for people saying why don't people have it, it's not always a simple decision to make.

Pulpfiction1 · 31/03/2020 09:52

I hope it's compulsory and children aren't let back in school without one.

I hope I never live in a country that forces medication on children.

It's not about being an anti vaxxer btw. I vaccinated my children because measles, rubella they are things I want my kids protecting against, so the risk of the vaccine is worth the protection from the disease.

I don't feel covid19 is enough of a danger to my kids that I would risk a vaccine. And all vaccines have risks and possible side effects.

If I was 70 with a heart condition, yes I would have a vaccine. But it's not worth me taking the risk of a vaccine (with long term consequences unknown) to protect me from a what will be for me a mild illness.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 31/03/2020 09:56

I don't feel covid19 is enough of a danger to my kids that I would risk a vaccine. And all vaccines have risks and possible side effects.

But that's not the only reason.

They can be carriers and they can spread it even if they didn't show symptoms. And you will be relying on other people vaccinating to protect them and you.

SmileyClare · 31/03/2020 09:59

It's not worth me taking the risk of a vaccine to protect me

It's not all about "me" and "my kids" though is it? People on here have explained that they do not receive vaccines for valid medical reasons. This minority group rely on being protected by a herd immunity of vaccinated people.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 31/03/2020 09:59

OK, so maybe making them compulsory might be a too far, I agree.

But definitely not letting unvaccinated children back to school or nursery. If you don't want to vaccinate, them homeschool.

Pulpfiction1 · 31/03/2020 09:59

They can be carriers and they can spread it even if they didn't show symptoms. And you will be relying on other people vaccinating to protect them and you.

Not all vaccine programs are about irradication like polio. Some like flu are just to protect the vulnerable. I imagine the covid19 program will be just for the vulnerable like flu vaccine. The young and health won't need it as our immune systems will protect us.

Pulpfiction1 · 31/03/2020 10:03

But definitely not letting unvaccinated children back to school or nursery. If you don't want to vaccinate, them homeschool

All children have a right to an education. You don't have a right not to get ill. So I don't see how that is legal. Also many people aren't able to home school due to financial reasons or their own academic ability.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 31/03/2020 10:04

And they can have it. At home.

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 31/03/2020 10:08

All children have a right to an education. You don't have a right not to get ill.

I'm sure all teachers will appreciate your position on this.

avocadotofu · 31/03/2020 10:09

Of course!!

Pulpfiction1 · 31/03/2020 10:12

And they can have it. At home.

Not everyone is in a middle-class bubble that has the knowledge and resources to home educate.

hopsalong · 31/03/2020 10:18

I'd prefer get the antibody test first. I'd also want the person who gave it to me to be certified immune or covid-negative, and not to wait around in the surgery too long. (This is assuming epidemic still raging.)

My son had the chickenpox vaccine last year. He had it a day or two before two children were sent home form his nursery with chickenpox. The doctor said at first that the spots he got a few days later were a post-vaccine rash. Then they got worse and it became clear that he just had ... bog standard chickenpox. Worst £200 I've ever spent! (I say this lightly, he soon recovered -- and in fact he must have been exposed before he had the vaccine.)

SmileyClare · 31/03/2020 10:22

Come on, the fact remains that if you were offered the vaccine you should take it. It's not going to be nurses stabbing all and sundry with needles, it's going to be HCPs contacting people who need protecting most.

The reason children are now vaccinated against flu are 2 fold;
-it protects them from an nasty illness
-it stops them spreading the flu to vulnerable people who cannot be vaccinated.

The "I don't trust it, it might be rushed, I'll wait, I don't trust science, I'll chance it" brigade are really short sighted and either ignorant or selfish.

The day a Covid 19 vaccine is available is the day our lives can begin the slow return to some kind of normal.

I'm starting to suspect that some people think Boris will pop up on their tele in a couple of months to say "Good News! The virus has gone. Everything's normal now, the lockdown killed the virus" Confused

Covid 19 will likely always remain, coming in peaks and troughs, dependent on season. A vaccine will be key to controlling outbreaks and deaths.

3rdNamechange · 31/03/2020 10:23

Of course.

SlothMama · 31/03/2020 10:28

I suspect I'll need it for my job so yes I will be having it

ahiyarose78 · 31/03/2020 10:30

I would absolutely get vaccinated for it. Vaccines not only save your life, but the lives of other people as well.

For those who would be “scared” of getting vaccinated against the coronavirus — obviously such a vaccine wouldn’t come into widespread use if it was unsafe. A number of human trials have to be carried out before vaccines can be used.

MrsSnitchnose · 31/03/2020 10:33

@ChardonnaysPetDragon It's not up to you or anyone else what I decide to put into my body, or that of my child

Nor is it up to you to choose who gets an education based on that choice

There are people here with genuine concerns and those need to be taken into account, and if some of us decide we don't want it, that's entirely our choice

PowerslidePanda · 31/03/2020 10:35

Not everyone is in a middle-class bubble that has the knowledge and resources to home educate.

And not everybody has an immune system that would allow them to have a vaccine, which is why they rely on herd immunity from those of us who can.

You're very quick to bang on about the "rights" you and your children have, but what about your responsibilities to society? Why do you deserve the rights without the responsibilities? You're very lucky to live in a country that lets you get away with such a selfish attitude. Personally I think we should move to the model that ChardonnaysPetDragon alluded to - which many countries have already done.

Reginabambina · 31/03/2020 10:36

No, not after what happened with the SARS vaccine. As a rule I don’t use new vaccines/medicines unless it’s a serious matter which CV wouldn’t be (for us, obviously if one of us was susceptible then I’d make sure we all had it).

ChardonnaysPetDragon · 31/03/2020 10:39

It's you who decide what education your child can have by deciding whether to vaccinate.

Genuine medical reasons can and must be taken into account, of course

This has been going on for a while, with the measles epidemic, and I hope the discussion will be widened to include the eventual COVID 19 vaccine, and further measures taken.

Stillinbedat10am · 31/03/2020 10:39

I would want it but wouldn't expect to get it. I suspect it will be offered to key workers, high-risk people and the elderly then the rest of us will be expected to go without unless we have the finances to pay privately for it.

Olawisk · 31/03/2020 10:43

I still would not take it. The fact remains that it has And will be rushed. There is a reason a vaccination normally takes years to produced I’m not willing to have something injected into my body when there are no long term studies of the side effects later on down the line.
I won’t have it and neither will my kids, there are no laws to say they have to have it so they won’t. I would still expect them to go to school as normal.

In other countries it may be compulsory but it’s not in this one so they won’t have it.

Northernsoullover · 31/03/2020 10:46

@Reginabambina what happened with the SARS vaccine

Reginabambina · 31/03/2020 10:52

@Northern there were a lot of questions about its safety after the fact. Some animal trials showed liver damage, others revealed a lung disease of sone sort. I can’t remember that well (it was a long time ago and I was very young) but I remember a lot of handwringing. Ultimately you’re not going to necessarily see the long term effects of you are testing on a short time frame and sometimes unexpected side effects arise no matter how sound the theory is. It’s not a risk I’d be willing to take unnecessarily.

SmileyClare · 31/03/2020 11:02

Where on earth are people getting information from about this? No one will be forcing medication into your children

You know how vaccines work? Vaccines work by stimulating your body's own natural immune defences, not through drugs.

I'm so disappointed that there are so many posters on here displaying such ignorant knee jerk reactions.

Do you honestly think a couple of hours "researching" on the internet makes you more informed than a consultant clinical scientist who trained as a medical doctor, took specialist training in medical microbiology, further training in infectious and tropical diseases followed by higher specific microbiology qualification?

But yes sure, you did your "research".