Shitty message from teacher on Google Classroom.

[Tibola]

Congratulating the 10 kids who completed the assignment and giving their names. And then in block caps:

FOR ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT COMPLETE THIS I WILL NOT BE GOING BACK OVER THIS IN CLASS 👍

Rude much?!! And no, their school isn’t open for key workers before anyone jumps on me and says how busy she must be

I can’t believe that people are so willing to write off whole swathes of young people who aren’t, for so many reasons, engaged in education.
Many, many children live in difficult situations and are disengaged with their schooling, as is highlighted so often on MN the behaviour in schools is shocking, many children only succeed because of patient, tireless support they receive from their teachers and schools.
People saying they can’t believe that so many children have no access to computers, we have two laptops in my house, I have three children and I’m working from home.
People saying that 14/15 year olds should be self motivated and be able to work independently - maybe so, but what if they can’t? So many kids live in homes where no one is bothered about them or their education, 1 in 5 teenagers can’t even read properly. I am horrified that all of these children are going to be written off because they couldn’t manage to access home education.
They will have to make some sort of adjustments to the exam set up next year or the outcomes could be catastrophic for many young people.

No not at all.

• my daughter's zoom meeting was to allow social interaction
• my daughter's teacher emailed approximately 5 - 6 emails per day last week issuing homework etc for her to do whilst the school is shut; my son's teacher issued one email during the week - this is typical of my daughters teacher and my son's teacher
• hence it was an innocent enquiry by me to the teacher who communicates more.

I am not trying to be unfair on my daughter. maybe I just (stupidly) thought there might have been a bit more joined up thinking on the zoom thing between colleagues but now I realise my error.

Or that they have access to the internet? Ours in a dire connection, in a rural area, at the best of times. But it keeps dropping more than usual lately.

Plus, four children with two laptops (and one is used for me to work from home a lot of the time.)

My teenager is beavering away on his phone, but having to lend it to his younger siblings at times so they can work on some of the apps they have been asked to.

There is one key piece of information missing in your OP. How long did your DC get to complete the assignment? If there was a very short deadline, then I'd say the teacher was being unreasonable, but otherwise, no. As for the pp who said that the schools need not open as students can learn remotely...hilarious! 😂😂😂😂

Year 10 should definitely be doing their work and are capable of doing it without parents help. Dsd has been doing hers all week, no excuse not to.

Not rude. Direct. There's a massive difference.

They should be doing the work - unless they are unable to and then you should inform the school. Yr 10 can cope with this sort of message. Sure I don’t like the caps but its vital the kids learn to work from home and get work done. They will, most likely, be doing this next winter as well. If parents worry more about the tone of a message more than their kids not completing work then they’ve got the wrong priorities

hence it was an innocent enquiry by me to the teacher who communicates more.

But that teacher has no idea what the other teacher is doing. If you want to know when a teacher will do something, ask them

It's like some people just can't imagine other people's lives.

Nasty message.
It could have been said much nicer, she doesn't sound like a good teacher.

She's hoping she will return to class then?

As a teacher with many years of experience I can tell you that students fall broadly into two categories:

The ones that work hard no matter what the sometimes appalling circumstances at home. The ones I lend my own books to because they don’t have the resources to get their own. Some of these kids have parents that couldn’t care less about them and these are the ones that I’ll go above and beyond for.

The other category is the lazy ones that don’t want to do any work and their parents blame teachers for their lazy spawn.

Of course you do get the kids who are in between and need a little gentle prodding at times, but overall those kids who want to do well, do.

Science teacher here.

I think it’s absolutely what the situation calls for sometimes.

She’s not lying. There will simply not be time between now and next years GCSE exams to go over the material.
Many courses now need 3 years to try and fit them in (Speaking about my school with students who are not very independent). The GCSE Biology content in particular simply didn’t fit even before all of this.

The first thing form tutors at our school had to do is phone all parents to have a discussion about what kind of computer access there might be, we talked to parents about whether our students would be needed to fulfill childcare needs for the family. This information was then collated and shared with class teachers, allowing expectations to be tempered by the reality of our students home lives.

Would I send that message to a heavily EAL, PP, SEND yr10 class? Nope because it wouldn’t help.

Would I send it to my fairly independent, top set, triple science yr10 class? Absolutely. It might be the only tone that got them to remember that the work they don’t do now matters later.

I’m going to guess that your DC is part of a perfectly able class who should be expecting good grades next year.

I'm not sure that DS' teachers are under much pressure at all." How ironically rude. The overwhelming majority of teachers are working harder harder than ever and feel incredibly stressed - video classes / internet connection / learning new tech skills all the time, while looking after their own kids at times.

The thumbs up is strange. I assume there was a reasonable deadline like 2 or 3 days.

Discounting those who are ill or have problems getting online, the teacher is right to expect y10 to do the assignment and submit it on time.

I have a y9 Ds and I expect that from him. If they aren't doing this at y9/10, how are they going to cope revising for GCSEs or studying A-levels which require lots of self study?

My daughters geography teacher posted that she had 520 pieces of work to mark this week and thanked students for submitting it so OP teachers are busy even though it’s remote learning.

Perhaps the message was a bit rude but the teacher will still be working to deadlines and teaching multiple classes. For the senior years they will be compiling evidence to prove grades in place of exams.
One of DD’s teachers has sent multiple emails to them to contact her to find out if they have work still to complete and posted the 2 essays everyone would have been doing this week.
Clearly very few have done this so she is escalating it to head of department and guidance teachers to involve parents. Which is fair enough. She is doing this as she wants to be able to give as best a grade as she can as there is no exams but she can’t do this without evidence and pupils need to work with her to do this.

Sounds fair enough. Why didn’t your kids do it?

I have a dc in year 9. If she had this email and hadn’t done this work, I’d be furious with her. There is no excuse for her to have not completed the work set. I appreciate some will not be able to do the work for whatever reason, but I think a lot will be using this as a holiday. Dd had a message from one teacher earlier in the week saying how many in the class hadn’t done the work and dd said she knew exactly who they would be. The teacher is not daft and I expect knows full well who will complete the work set and who will be treating this as a holiday.

@Bubblebu

It's much more efficient to issue one e-mail rather than five. If I got that many it would suggest the sender isn't thinking things through. I'm not saying that's the case with your daughter's teacher but it's about quality as well as quantity. Was your son set enough work? If he's high ability and you need more then send a polite e-mail asking for it.

Nasty message.
It could have been said much nicer, she doesn't sound like a good teacher.

She's hoping she will return to class then?

Just wow.

@WildIrishRose1, the school is closed. They aren’t open so they aren’t working out of the house.

Only 3 subjects have posted any work to do at home.

This is a genuine question, what are they so busy with?

he overwhelming majority of teachers are working harder harder than ever and feel incredibly stressed - video classes / internet connection / learning new tech skills all the time, while looking after their own kids at times

A bit like many people working from home with kids.

It’s becoming clear to me that some people have zero idea how some other people live.

Yes, we know which kids are PP but that doesn’t mean there aren’t lots more under the radar.

Between this and the lack of empathy for the single parent whose only local supermarket has banned children, I’m just realising the extent of people’s lack of awareness.

We have a large house, 2 parents at home with 3 kids. Lots of devices, a large garden, outdoor toys etc. Many families are coping with many issues that even I cannot comprehend. But at least I’m open minded and willing to change my viewpoint on many things as new realisations come upon me.

YANBU
Our internet was down all last week.
If the schools had shut a week earlier then my DS would have missed a weeks worth of home lessons.
Some families only have one laptop and parent has to use it to work.

You think that's bad mine got a text from school saying she didn't sign in on Sunday the last couple of weeks. She had no idea she was meant to and was the only one who didn't.
It was pointed out that friends had managed it from Hong Kong and China

Yes the frequency of the emails from my daughter's teacher can be annoying especially as they are all setting high expectations that parents will be covering everything she wants done asap where as my son's teacher is very quiet on the email.
I don't have complaints about either style; I just genuinely thought that as my daughter's teacher clearly took the initiative to set up a whole class zoom meeting that it was going to be a school initiative for all classes and that somehow (maybe presumptive) maybe the teachers are communicating with each other (maybe by zoom) themselves.

Can see I was very very wrong on that.