Shitty message from teacher on Google Classroom.

[Tibola]

Congratulating the 10 kids who completed the assignment and giving their names. And then in block caps:

FOR ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT COMPLETE THIS I WILL NOT BE GOING BACK OVER THIS IN CLASS 👍

Rude much?!! And no, their school isn’t open for key workers before anyone jumps on me and says how busy she must be

It’s all very well saying Year 10s need to step up and be responsible etc. There’s a big difference between juggling homework tasks and revision etc and then suddenly finding yourself in your bedroom 8 hours a day, trying to juggle the entire workload for 9 or 10 subjects. From teachers whose methods and communication skills and adaptability vary hugely. Give the poor kids a break - it’s going to take some of them a bit of time to adjust. We’re only one week in. Give them a chance and some gentle encouragement. And that’s just the ones who are fortunate enough to have a work space / computer / internet. Think of the other poor souls ...

I don't think can expect teachers to go over everything we have to do with kids at home. But I don't think pressure on children at times like this is acceptable either. Mine tend to do their work every other day. And at their own pace. Kids are quick learners. They will soon pick up on anything missed. Teachers at our primary are so encouraging and have repeated over and over about making children feel as normal as possible without added pressure. Maybe this certain teacher a bit stressed out with it all.

erm, we might not have internet due to lack of money coming in to the household shortly, so very unfair in my opinion

It does make me laugh that some posters are saying "well I've got 12 kids and I'm working from home and we didn't know the schools were closing and we've got things going on in our lives" forgetting teachers are people, like you, doing a job, like you.

Teachers found out about the closures at the same time as you, from the news.

Teachers have their own kids, like you do.

Teachers are currently working from home, like you are.

Teachers have things going on in their lives, like you do.

It's not an "us vs them" situation - everyone is in the same boat.

I think some people are just bitter that their state-provided childcare isn't running at the moment...

I think some people are just bitter that their state-provided childcare isn't running at the moment...

While your absolutely correct.

I don't think OP was saying this or what her thread was about. The teacher was rude. It was week 1. Op wasn't asking more of the teacher actually less.

Beets are you in state school? That sounds horrendous. They cannot make you go on camera. Do the kids listen? I can't even imagine.

As someone said above, we’re all humans all going through the same problems, feeling stressed.

I am finding it so difficult WFH. We had such short notice that schools were closing, my husband also works in a school (not a teacher) so suddenly we found both of us WFH with only one computer- and his job is all about exam entries and data so he gets priority in the day while I’m working all evening on marking, planning & resources. My school do not have the budget or resources to equip me with a laptop. I do sympathise and understand that parents will be in this position too. It’s just a shit time for everyone so, although we’re all frustrated, it would help if we could be a little more understanding that this is really fucking hard (the teacher included).

DS's school and the schools I am a governor for, all checked whether children would have access to technology.

Yes but do you have access to a pc / laptop, is very different to does everyone in your household have their own laptop or pc.

It has become painfully clear that my 8 yr old son complaining aBout his tablet for months wasn't him complaining for nothing. It is very slow making his online activities difficult.

We have access to tech in this house. What we don’t have access to is sufficient computers for both school-aged kids to be on them during the day, plus me doing university work and DH doing his work from home... and space to put them all to do so. As it is I’m already on the wobbly laptop trolley with a wheel that keeps falling off.

We’ve had to rake in the shed for an old laptop to refurb to pass to a friend for her kids to do schoolwork on - they just had an old iPad which was sufficient for the odd bit of web browsing and the like - but wasn’t a solution for two kids needing to do schoolwork on sites which didn’t run properly on a tablet.

I hear the paper pain and raise you the amount of printer ink and paper we’re going through!

Totally acceptable. Factual. Clear.

Year 10 is an extremely important year. There's so much on the curriculum these days that not everything is done in class. Lots of work is done independently as homework. This is hrem marked and if there's issues, these are reviewed individually or, if it's merited, with the whole class.

If some pupils aren't even attempting the work, then how is a trachersulposed to work out that needs to be covered?

The other glaringly obvious thing is that OP has no idea what may have been previously communicated. Maybe some pupils just aren't getting that for year 10-13 especially, it should be business as usual.

And on the 'what are they doing all day' front - their job. Teachers are having to adapt everything they spent preparing (over last summer break, Christmas break and half terms) so as to be 'teachable' remotely. They are having to review all the work of year 11/13 pupils so they have a fair and reflective GCSE/A level.

There's nothing rude in the message. DS did the work so it's not even aimed at you. Most of the threads on here about teachers are awful - too much, too little, too vague, too detailed bla bla bla. People wanting to moan and take out their frustrations on easy targets.

I hope the teacher sticks to it and doesn't go over it in class. But we know, if needed, they will. Because they're a teacher.

With respect sleepylittlebunnies I doubt two thirds of the class are in your situation
I'm guessing most of them just can't be bothered. Of course if they are then the message obviously doesn't apply to them.

With attitudes like some of the above, it's no wonder the UK has the unhappiest kids in Europe. God knows how those who need extra support, particularly MH support, are coping. The kids are not going to come out of this happier, are they? Goodness knows what problems are brewing.

But, yes, let's all feel sorry for the teachers instead. The profession on Mumsnet which is completely untouchable.

But, yes, let's all feel sorry for the teachers instead. The profession on Mumsnet which is completely untouchable.

There are several threads running already on why teachers are setting work, why some of them are not setting work, why some are teaching online and some not etc. The teacher bashing here is astonishing. It is far form a profession on MN which is untouchable. I think the reverse is true.

It's the lack of compassion for the kids, who are at the very bottom of the pile, that I find truly sad. Teachers choose to be teachers; kids don't choose to go to school.

For my part, I have a great deal of sympathy for teachers, in general, and in this difficult and unforeseen situation. But the sympathy does wear a bit thin at times, especially on Mumsnet! Also, it's amazing how these stressed and overworked teachers always have SO much time to spend online.

I think everyone is trying to do the best they can right now and everyone is stretched and stressed. My daughter's teachers in primary are sending lovely encouraging messages to the kids and lots of praise for any work submitted.
The online response my DS (with SEN) is getting from secondary teachers seems is all very negative - you didn't complete this, that was late... He is doing the best he can. I am WFH full-time and cannot support more than an hour a day. We are still trying to figure this whole thing out. It's just not possible in the first week to get through this huge homework load.
Ultimately I want us to get through it with mental and physical health in tact. Sending love to all the struggling parents, teachers and kids out there!!!! xxx

I think unless you have done a job then you should stop talking about it as though you have. I don't claim to know the ins and outs of being a nurse, a factory operative, a rocket scientist, McDonald's employee, lion tamer. If I did, it'd go something like this "ah well they chose to be a lion tamer and it's not hard is it, you just make sure you don't get mauled to death by the lion." and you'd tell me to stop talking out of my arse.

Here we go again: can’t ever criticise a teacher. So easy to bait as well!

Here we go again: can’t ever criticise a teacher

Um. Except if you join one of the bazillion threads doing just this. It’s a total fallacy that we see ourselves as infallible- we do tend to offer explanations/possible reasons though if a colleague is attacked. We can’t help it - explaining stuff is our job!!

So easy to bait as well!

Nothing like a bit of community spirit in a crisis, eh?

I think unless you have done a job then you should stop talking about it as though you have.

OK! I'll carry on then! (20 years in the classroom, now back at university retraining for a career change)

I wasn't aiming that at anyone in particular, just generally speaking as it pisses me off that some people on MN see teachers as fair game when they've not got a clue about the profession. Then again, I'm sure if there was any kind of analysis done we'd see that the people who slag off teachers are generally lacking in empathy and probably think they're the only ones doing anything useful.

Pretty fair really I'd say.

Spot on. What did you expect?

Here we go again: can’t ever criticise a teacher
I never understand this claim.

It gets trotted out any time anyone suggests someone is being unreasonable towards/about a member of staff or when people suggest contacting school and asking their questions/raising their concerns to the appropriate person instead of taking the awful advice of a certain group fo mumsnetters who love advocating demanding to see the head and reporting to Ofsted.

According to some posters advocating anything other than storming in to demand the head drops everything and/or threatening the school with ofsted or the governors is bowing down and worshipping teachers.

Meanwhile there's actually quite a lot of us on here who help posters raise concerns with schools in a way that's productive, whilst also advising when to drop something and to stop being unreasonable.

MN is currently a mix of two thread-types at the minute. 1. Do you think we are all going to die/will the world order collapse? 2. Why are teachers getting paid/being mean/not doing enough work/sending my kid too much work/not sending my kid enough work?

Teachers are the subject of such vitriol, and it really is starting to get me down. Is my job more difficult than a nurse/ lawyer/accountant? I have no idea because I have never done those jobs. Do teachers recieve more criticism in public forums than those other professions? Absolutely.

Year 10 is 15yrs old... Whats the big deal?

You sound like a "karen" to me... Cut her some slack

Teachers found out about the closures at the same time as you, from the news.

Well I find it interesting, that my DD's tutor's school had online schooling in place 2 weeks before and they felt ready and confident. But my DD's school had worksheets and someone kindly rang my sister (4th emergency contact, non household member) to find out how Dd was doing a few days later and reminded us we can go to the school to pick up more worksheets when she gets through the first set.

I let them off but I expect nothing else outside crisis times either.

@LolaSmiles. Teachers on these boards in general dont do criticism of people in their profession. Some behave almost like the police (or criminals)

I actually enjoyed school growing up, but there were teachers who felt sarcasm/humiliation, was the only way to teach. Yet I did the best in subjects where teachers spoke to me like a human being.

But you know if rudeness is your go to as an educator go for it. Just dont pretend there wasnt a better way to communicate with the students. That delivery was rude. Designed to humiliate, but likely to alienate. Dont leave the profession just try a different way to get the message across.