Shitty message from teacher on Google Classroom.

[Tibola]

Congratulating the 10 kids who completed the assignment and giving their names. And then in block caps:

FOR ALL THOSE WHO DID NOT COMPLETE THIS I WILL NOT BE GOING BACK OVER THIS IN CLASS 👍

Rude much?!! And no, their school isn’t open for key workers before anyone jumps on me and says how busy she must be

That's not rude.

That’s it.

So, not too taxing for the children to complete.

HirooOnoda as I posted above, the conclusion I came to was never to email my daughters teacher again. I genuinely thought she would not object to the enquiry but I see I was very very wrong. How can there be a dialogue with teachers if a precedent is now being set that any communication with parents is going to be met with an aggressive response. My children are primary school children and like everyone else are isolating at home with me, they miss their friends and that was all it was.

But it is interesting that you get these threads, and then also the "why aren't you live teaching everything" threads. I think another poster said that whatever teachers do right now it will be simultaneously too much and not enough
Quite

On MN we've had:

• multiple threads and posts about how teachers aren't working, what are they doing
• multiple comments about trying to shred up contracts and have staff/students back in school through the summer holidays to make up for the holidays teachers have had already 😂🤦
• why is my child's school setting too much work?
• my child's school is setting more work than they normally study in class (how the parent knows the details of what's covered in class is beyond me)
• why is my child's school not setting suitably academic work?
• surely those students in school are at an advantage
• countless posts using poverty in other students to justify why school shouldn't expect a teenage DC with internet access to do the work
• sweeping comments about vulnerable students (again almost always in relation to bashing schools because clearly they haven't a clue who their vulnerable students are and wouldn't have thought of this)

Of course it's not a thread about education without dozens of people who've never stepped foot in a classroom telling teachers how to do their jobs, that they don't know their students, that there's obviously a reason why most of a class of y10s couldn't have done their GCSE work because there's no way 14/15 year olds can be lazy and/or not see the big picture, that teachers aren't busy, tell us how we should be setting work and so on. I honestly don't know how teachers manage to do their jobs day in day out without the wisdom of keyboard warriors.

That message is absolutely fair enough for any and all healthy Year 10s in her class. They are heading into their final GCSE year, and this is not a holiday; it's working from home.

I have a Year 10. He knows he has to do it!

She's not a very good teacher, this is the first week Where's the motivation, Where's the support message.
No empathy or understanding of home circumstances or even the fact that someone in the family could have covid 19

Maybe the teacher is tired of setting all the work and to see none completed?

I think it's really rude and unnecessary, it could have been worded much more diplomatically.

The teacher has no idea what's going on in their pupils lives and should be a bit more thoughtful.

I have a similar aged child who is finding aspects of home learning difficult and accidently submitted an incorrect piece of work. They do not need to be made to feel guilty.

My younger child had a message on the first day from one teacher that basically said, don't ask any silly questions - they will be ignored and just use your resilience to get through this - not exactly supportive! Having said that some other teachers communication has been much more understanding so I think it all boils down to personality and with secondary you don't normally get this insight into how each teacher operates.

At that age I was undisciplined and left my schoolwork until the last minute, often not completing it. I had almost zero oversight from my parents and a plethora of difficulties at home.

That message would have motivated me to get working. Or else I would have been motivated to explain to the teacher why I was having issues.

OP said her DS did the work but also wasn’t bothered by the tone of the email. I suspect most kids wouldn’t be bothered by it; they are probably used to the tone each takes to motivate the kids that are not doing their work.

I did have one assignment as a child that was difficult; involved watching the news and writing a summary. We didn’t have tv and I was embarrassed to admit that. But I also could do the assignment at my grandparents house and rarely made the effort. I got reprimanded, then Mom found out and gave the teacher an earful but to this day I know that I could have gotten the work done if I really cared.

She is working from home, no empathy for parents at work.

"What are teachers doing with their day?"

Well personally I am looking after my preschool and primary aged children during the day, while my DH (who is the main wage earner by a long shot) concentrates on keeping his job through the latest round of redundancies.
Then I do my teaching bit in the evening once my own kids are asleep. I am not hassling my students for work merely keeping in contact and asking if I can help them complete the work set.
If anyone complains about my work I am quite happy to resign and concentrate on keeping my own family safe, to be honest. I have lots of prior work experience and qualifications in both the hospitality and finance industry which I would be happy to return to once this is over.

I think it’s fair enough to tell it like it is to teenagers. Ten of them did do it including your offspring.

She's not rude at all. Have you any idea how teacher's workloads have doubled getting this online system up and running? And for so many on here to say they have less work to do - it's been manic for them.

She is entitled to rule the children this way - she's a teacher, and someone has to keep them in check. Clearly judging by the amount of parents playing with kids in the park all day/sunbathing/taking them to the shops - all during school hours, then someone needs to try to give them an education. Cut her some slack and be grateful for her.

She is entitled to rule the children this way

No she really isn’t.

OP said her DS did the work but also wasn’t bothered by the tone of the email. I suspect most kids wouldn’t be bothered by it; they are probably used to the tone each takes to motivate the kids that are not doing their work
You're right. It also misses the nuances of staff-student relationships.
There are things my colleagues might say/do with a class that if I did wouldn't work.
There are things I say/do with my classes that I know fine well another colleague has had a complaint about, the central difference is that my relationships with students are a lot better than that colleague.
The caps locks is sometimes needed to make things stand out as there's often no formatting to bold/underline on these platforms.
I've used caps and a smiley face show I'm not shouting, but it is important (eg deadlines, work to catch up on if there's been a school trip, change of day for a revision session, reminders where I've given homework extensions). I'd be a bit bemused by a parent deciding, as some have on this thread, that makes me an unsupportive or bad teacher, especially if their child wasn't even bothered. It screams that they're looking for something to complain about.

She has made the situation clear. It isn't rude.

She isn't going over any work and why should she.

If we don't go back to school until September those not doing the work will be at a disadvantage compared to those who do the work.

Nope, not shitty and not rude at all! However, not doing the work is! Teachers are having a hellish time, Y10 need to get their acts together. They're not babies anymore.And that's coming from someone who's homeschooled teenagers for 4 weeks already...!

If my daughter got that message from her teacher, I'd be absolutely fucking fine with it. If she was one of the ones alluded to in the capital letters, I'd be having her phone off her until the work was done. This was all part of the deal when we got her phone 4 years ago, so it's a normal persuasive route that happens almost good humouredly now.

Why would anyone get annoyed at a teacher for emphasising that the work could not be covered again in class? Imagine the flaming the teacher would get if they didn't emphasis this and then the topic came up in an exam.

Ah, and here is today's teacher bashing thread.

Of course it isn't rude. The kids should have done the work.

I agree that the tone is off but I think Year 10 is one of the years that stands to lose out the most. We don’t know how long this will last and so they do need to keep working. I’ve just spent an hour sending individual emails to a Year 10 to check they’re ok but also to prod them to upload work. It’s hugely time consuming and communication is really important. I think they are old enough to email if there are issues and not just ignore.

Year 10, seems fine to me as long as they all have access. They’re old enough to get on with the work and take responsibility for their learning. They’ve got lots of time on their hands so if they have access there’s no reason for them not to at least attempt the work.

*Ah, and here is today's teacher bashing thread.

Of course it isn't rude. The kids should have done the work*

It is rude. She deserved the bashing. I’ll decide if my child does the work in these unprecedented times, not some teacher.

If she didn’t make it clear then she’d be heavily criticised. Y10 is really old enough to be getting on with it without constant hand holding. I’d be unimpressed with my DD is she didn’t do the work without a damned good reason. If educating from home is going to work parents need to support teachers and tell their kids to do the work rather than fussing about a message being in caps.

I think she could have worded differently. Sometimes the intention of the message can be interpreted differently when written down. I do think though that she won't be going over it again.

itispersonal
The teacher should be thankful for any work the children do

ODFOD

This is just another teacher bashing threads.
So far we have had
Too much work.
Not enough work.
No Video lessons.
Not enough communication.
And now we should be grateful for any work done.

@Tibola
TBH
Wait till next year when every teacher will want your child to stay after school for extra lessons and catch ups for the work that they have missed.