Stricter lockdown coming?

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What might a stricter lockdown look like? Will we get to a point where we can't go out to exercise at all? Or is it more likely we'll only be able to go shopping once a week?

It will have to be as we still have so many driving to walk their bloody dog or see daily exercise as a daily excuse to flout the lockdown.

@StormyClouds

I am very saddened to read your comment, 2 of my kids are on the vulnerable list one is extremely high risk at only the age of 8.

He is not expected to die in the next year, we are no entering our third week at home, having removed them from school. Is he worth so much less than your life? Because you could be asked to stay home more.

This kind of thing really troubles me, we should all be doing our best to protect everyone

Shopping once a week would be the only difficult thing for me really. Family of 3 and 2 cats with no car and we are very low income so I never had the money to go stockpiling. I've got to go shopping today and I'm dreading it 😩

If it does it won't be for a week or two because of the timelines, they need that time to see what has worked, So three weeks of this present lockdown then review

They pretty much said that on BBC News just now

I could see the exercise allowed being cut/ restricted but I worry about us being made a population of prisoners.

@nos123 - sorry I didn't mean to cause offence. I didn't think benefits were paid multiple times a week?

I also think that the exercise cut will be the main thing that will happen as that does not affect the economy and is fairly easy to do.

StressedMummy from what I've read on this and other threads, Stormy is very much of the opinion that as long as the people dying are elderly it doesn't matter.

@LittleMrsMama My partner and I get benefits on a Monday, a Tuesday, every other Wednesday, every Thursday, and once a month for PIP. We buy what we need, when we need it.

@LittleMrsMama Shopping once a month is just not going to work for 99% of people especially as you can’t buy tinned food or staples in any volume. I’ve struggled with 14 days of isolation. We’re coming out of it on Wednesday and have used up a lot of our food cupboard, freezer etc and we had a food shop delivered. I will probably run out of milk tomorrow but have a couple of leftover bottles of formula that the baby can have instead.

I also think that the exercise cut will be the main thing that will happen as that does not affect the economy and is fairly easy to do.

I agree, but will it actually do much to cut infection rates? If people are adhering to the 2 metre rule when doing their exercise, then outdoor exercising has negligible risk. Coronavirus is not airborne, it can only be caught from droplet (so breathing in someone's just expelled sneeeze) or surface contamination. So keep 2 metres away and dont touch anything and it is virtually impossible to catch it.

It is public transport, people working and shopping where the risk is at (due to a greater likelihood of breaching the 2 metres, and inavoidable spread through surface contamination). Whilst exercise might be the easy option, if govt continue to "follow the science" I dont think it will be the one.

One adult, maximum once every 3 days for shopping and cutting out all non key worker employment that involves people leaving house would be far more effective.

I’ve seen a few posts on here where non essential workers are made to go in by the company. That could be ordered to stop.

I hope there aren’t any further restrictions. If we’re flattening the curve we’ll enough, I’d hate to see even more businesses go under. At the moment, lots are still just about managing online. The impact of all retailers having to shut online as well will be massive. They just won’t exist in a few months time and will go into administration. I for one still want to be buying things for the children. One of mine has a birthday coming up. It’s shit enough for her that she won’t have a party. It would be horrid to not be able to buy presents as well.

They should definitely shut large DIY stores- which appear to be selling all sorts rather than essential items, and have become a 'shopping trip' venue. Yes, we might need tap washers or fuses but we don't need larva lamps, giant resin lizards, canvas pictures, dried flowers etc. It will all be landfill in 6months time.

Thanks so much for opening my eyes to this problem @Cremebrule and @purplemonkeydishwasher86 - I can hold my hands up and say I was completely oblivious to this - probably like many of the decision makers in government. Worse than being oblivious, I have friends and immediate family on benefits and they've never shared these challenges (although I'm sure most silently cope how they can) so I haven't realised people would struggle being restricted to shop once a week.

With people going out a few times a week through necessity I wonder whether we'll see a rise in people receiving benefits contracting Coronavirus, each time putting themselves in danger

Agree that I don’t think people exercising 2 meters apart is the biggest risk here. Therefore curbing that seems pointless (and will lead to health problems down the line).

It’s the packed public transport that is the main problem. So non essential work should be stopped I think.

If they could limit people going to the shops maybe once or twice week that would help? My parents still go every day!

There are other areas to target before exercise and all our mental health is suffering here. Exercise has so many benefits.

I thought DIY stores were only open on a click and collect basis. Other than smaller hardware stores like Robert Dyas and you need those to stay open in case you need to do essential repairs, or buy a kettle.

We don't need a stricter lockdown, we just need those still meeting in groups to stop.

Cutting the exercise allowance would be counterproductive, as said as long as you are outdoors and 2 metres away from people there is no risk and the benefits to your mental and physical health outweigh way any other disadvantages ...in my view.
Let's not forget that the lack of exercise is one of the reasons we have so many people with health conditions in our population.

Cutting the exercise allowance would be counterproductive, as said as long as you are outdoors and 2 metres away from people there is no risk
The number of people still continuing to use outdoor gyms is shocking. It’s a big risk. Even though they have been taped or fenced off.

Yep that’s true about outdoor gyms and such a shame if it ruins it for everyone.

anyone using outdoor gym will in very short order be filmed, shamed on social media and reported to the authorities
Publicly flouting the rules doesn't seem like a very good idea in the current climate!

@LittleMrsMama No problem. Always happy to help shed light. It does make life harder than it should be, and I agree that there will probably be a high number of benefit claimants who catch it. I'm disabled and my partner/carer has to go out to get food frequently during a week, increasing our chances. I'm terrified but we can't do anything to change it.

@PurpleMonkeyDishwasher86 - I'm so sorry to hear that, i imagine even you can't get home deliveries as your order would be under the threshold if you're having to shop a few times a week :(

I wasn’t sure what what an outdoor gym was so I googled and it looks like an adult play park, obviously I haven’t lived!

I welcome stricter measures because far too many people think it doesn't apply to them

I think this is false logic. If compliance with existing laws is poor, the proper solution is not to make them stricter but to increase enforcement of what we have. A stricter lockdown in response to poor compliance punishes law-abiding citizens for the behaviour of lawbreakers.