Why are people misunderstanding?

[Vates]

The reason we are on lockdown is to stop the spread and to not overwhelm the NHS at one time. Not to prevent deaths! People will die, lots of us will get it, a huge percentage of the population.

Of course I am worried; I have a family member and my best friend who is in the vulnerable group and it is heartbreaking. And then my worries extend to other peoples families.

But it seems like people are not willing to realise this? I feel like I am going mad. Even more mad than usual.

I am obeying lock down rules and trying to protect all people I can.

Thank you for that Curiosity, I have read it now and the flowers Sloth (adore your name). I will keep that in mind. My Sister would probably come and kick the door in if I didn't answer a call for a few hours. She can be fiery, although tiny. But she's worried about me. Which I hate.

I think many people have misunderstood, thinking that we’re all doing this to prevent us as individuals from getting it. That they’re being asked to work from home or stay at home to protect them personally and keep them safe. Of course you could say that’s the case indirectly, but it’s not the primary purpose. They don’t see the bigger picture.

Totally disagree with Nellodee . The majority of people who get or indeed have already had it will be fine .
The most important thing people need to understand is that in the next 1-2 weeks every day is going to be associated with an increase in cases and deaths - this isn’t because their endeavours to socially distance ‘ eventually ‘ are not working - it simply reflects the incubation period of the disease in those already exposed pre distancing . So please continue to distance for your adherence to this will work and reduce the overall numbers and final death toll .

From what I've read a vaccine would be 18-24 months.
True, but they are also trialling some anti viral meds right now like chloroquine and anti HIV meds at the moment. If one of those works then people who get severe Covid19 can be treated with something to lessen the disease and make them better quicker.

I’m so confused and stressed by people saying things like this. Why will it not prevent deaths?

Nellodee the alternative is the current govt strategy. Lockdown to slow it. Deal with the people who had it. Then loosen restrictions a bit to get it going. Lockdown and deal with that tranche. Rinse and repeat for, well, months.

Of course you could say that’s the case indirectly, but it’s not the primary purpose. They don’t see the bigger picture.

Could someone please explain the bigger picture for me?

I’m not stupid. But I don’t get it. At all. I thought this was to reduce spread and reduce deaths. I’m feeling so anxious, afraid and hopeless and I thought things would be better with the lockdown and it doesn’t help to basically read how stupid I must be for having a little hope.

This isn’t explained anywhere. They say stay home save lives. So I thought it was saving lives.

@bengalcat - of course the vast majority of people who catch it will be fine. But 5% of those who catch this will need critical care. And there is no way we can all get this, in less than a year, and give all that 5% the care they need. And that's before you look at the other 15% who will need hospital care but not ventilation.

The Imperial London study gave 250,000 dead as a best case scenario if we let everyone catch this, and that was IF they all managed to receive appropriate treatment.

Which they wouldn't.

So you can disbelieve me all you like. This whole situation is very difficult to get your head around. But your disbelief has no bearing on the truth of the situation. It won't lower the percentage of people needing critical care. It won't magic up critical care beds, or doctors, and it won't make this all go away.

I feel like everyone else got a memo and I didn’t.

@BeetrootRocks we are in agreement, I think. I hope that with contact tracing and lots of testing, we may be able to loosen restrictions quite a bit. This is what I am saying, though - this IS about preventing everyone getting it. If they do lockdown, release, tighten, release then by the time the vaccine arrives, we will still have huge amounts of people who have never had the virus at all.

This is a brilliant article about a possible way forwards, called "The Hammer and the Dance" - basically, the hammer is the original lockdown, you get this under control (and if you can slow it, you can make it go into reverse) and then you play with those controls to stop it getting out of hand.

medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56

@bucketofgin

Sorry if that was a bit ambiguous. It is to slow the spread, to slow the rate that people catch it. But many people seem to think it’s about protecting them as individuals.

It will prevent deaths because there will be a better medicin or vaccin at some point and the slower the spread, the less people get it before the medicin or vaccin is here. Less people that are infected equals less people dying. So slowing the spread will prevent deaths.

This needs repeating. The lockdown WILL save lives. Don't give up!

There are drug trials for treatment being held already.

The vaccin will take longer though.

I don’t disagree with testing ( especially for the antibody ) and contact tracing but I do disagree with your comments in your 19.10 entry . That is of course just my opinion as with all comments on any online site .

I don’t understand. Surely staying home protects you?

I haven’t been out of my house for 3 weeks except for a quick walk. I thought the entire point was to avoid catching it (I’m vulnerable).

Nellodee, your last post is the same conclusion I was drawing. That's why I was confused. I honestly don't care about myself as my mental health is poor, and the whole living or dying thing doesn't bother me. But worried about my Best friend and relative. And, yes, about other people who are vulnerable too. But didn't think people are accepting that no matter the lock down that people will catch it and die.

I wonder how many people will die as a result of other conditions that won't be treated due to the current crisis.

Vates, have you read my post? We are learning more and more on how to treat this but need more time. Lockdown will give us more time.

p.s. yes I am staying home but slowly going mad. I had hallucinations for the first time in years yesterday.

@ IpeartreeI indeed. I’ve had some scans I needed cancelled.

Slow the spread.

Help the NHS cope with the number of patients at any one time.

Buy time for someone, somewhere to work out a treatment of some kind for those that get very sick.

We can't stop it but we can try and manage it.

Where can I get the info that you seem to have OP?

It will prevent deaths because there will be a better medicin or vaccin at some point and the slower the spread, the less people get it before the medicin or vaccin is here. Less people that are infected equals less people dying. So slowing the spread will prevent deaths. There are drug trials being held already trying out chloroquine and anti HIV meds among others.
If one of them does work then they can treat infected people and lessen the amount of deaths. Lockdown gives us more time to learn about which treatment will work. The medical field is not standing still.

It will prevent deaths because there will be a better medicin or vaccin at some point and the slower the spread, the less people get it before the medicin or vaccin is here. Less people that are infected equals less people dying. So slowing the spread will prevent deaths.

This needs repeating. The lockdown WILL save lives. Don't give up!

People can read, Dzundza there really is no need to repeat your post three times.