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How long do you think this will last for?

88 replies

millerjane · 24/03/2020 13:47

Coronavirus - the more extremem measures in particular

Of course this is pure speculation and should not be taken seriously at all. What is your gut telling you?

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BelleharePenguin09 · 24/03/2020 15:38

A year.

AlternativePerspective · 24/03/2020 15:39

I think it’s impossible to say because every country has done something differently,and while people have criticised us for not following Italy, we in fact brought in stricter measures before Italy did,because when they first went into lockdown shops and restaurants and cafe’s were still open for at least a week until they too were closed.

In theory a three week lockdown should be sufficient to slow the virus, because by the end of three weeks those who will have been symptomatic will have passed through the stage of having had the virus.

What people need to remember is that they’re not looking to eradicate the virus, but to slow its progression until the health service can cope.

What we also don’t know is exactly how the virus will behave over time, everything is pure speculation even on the part of the science professionals, because the virus hasn’t yet even passed through a year of existence yet. So just because something happened one way in China doesn’t mean it will be the same the world over.

Italy is in fact a case in point. They have been on lockdown now for weeks and the numbers have risen dramatically over that period whereas in china it was actually brought under more control much quicker with the majority of new hospitals being closed by the end of February.

One thing people also need to remember is that there are quotes circulating around the internet that 5% of people will die of this virus when this is categorically not the case. At current estimate, around 20% of people infected will need hospital treatment, and of those 20% 5% will die, which is a much, much smaller figure.

We do still need the slowdown in order for the NHS to cope, but we need to separate that from the panic being spread that 5% of people will die. The figure is actually approximately 1%, which while still too high is not as high as is being claimed.

Derbee · 24/03/2020 15:41

At least 6 months. But probably a bit longer

sunnie1992 · 24/03/2020 15:44

I suspect that the government are pinning hopes on the antibody test.

Once that is available, then anyone who has the antibodies can return to work.

They'll test nhs staff first followed by teachers and then key workers.

Then school children. As we are all figuring out, we will be a much more productive work force if the kids are at school.

Then move to the wider public. Those who are immune can go back into offices and workplaces, using public transport etc.

Then gradually, once NHS beds are available, those not considered vulnerable will be released from lockdown even if they aren't immune.

I suspect they would like some return to schools by mid April depending on how many school staff are immune, and whether they can provide sufficient ratios.

BelleharePenguin09 · 24/03/2020 15:47

Oh lockdown - sorry. At least 2 months?

Ohtherewearethen · 24/03/2020 15:49

What is your AIBU? You do realise there is a dedicated CV topic don't you?

MurrayTheMonk · 24/03/2020 15:52

3 months...hoping everything will back to normal by then

Quartz2208 · 24/03/2020 15:53

I agree @AlternativePerspective this is all about managing it to enable the system to cope as much as possible against the economy.

China knows it really shouldnt be opening on the one hand of a second wave but it needs to because the economic implications of not could be even more catastrophic. Donald Trump seems to be going far to far the other way (although I think he will be brought back at least I hope)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8147411/I-defy-doctors-says-Donald-Trump-claiming-people-want-return-work.html

What we need to do to stop the virus vs what we need to do to ensure that there is an economic future are not the same and it will be a balancing game. One which different countries will handle in different ways.

ElaineMarieBenes · 24/03/2020 15:54

The rest of 2020

I was due to return to the U.K. at the end of July but have cancelled my flight. I have also told the person lodging in our house in London that she can stay on past July as we won’t be back this year (she is a student and was going to travel!)

meowcatmeow · 24/03/2020 15:57

@cologne4711 British Cycling is suspending all events (training and racing) until June 30th...a month longer than BritAthletics.

This lockdown will take us into July, in my opinion.

PicaK · 24/03/2020 15:59

Easter.... Next year.

itsgettingweird · 24/03/2020 16:01

I think after these 3 weeks things will either get tougher (if the idiots ignore the blatant requests) or they'll remain the same on a weekly review basis.

Schools I think until September. Mainly because they've already cancelled exams and so will just start new year as normal.

I hope as we travel into the relaxation period the things to open will be cafes but enforced distancing of tables and use of outside seating where possible. Also I think they will have a strict timeframe they can open. Maybe we'll even just have takeaway as was being used until Monday.

We need to do something. It may even need to be stepped up further so people get 2 supermarket passes a week and it states how many people it's for. Eg 1 where there's 2 adults, 4 for single parents with 3 children. Possibly even be assigned a nearest supermarket so they can control the number of people who can visit daily.
Smaller shops won't have a limit (eg local butchers) but I haven't seen these teaming with people so far.

AlternativePerspective · 24/03/2020 16:02

I don’t think there’s anything sinister about sporting governing bodies putting events back further than the current lockdown periods. It makes it much easier to push events back rather than having to continually do so as things change.

If you push an event back until say June there is more chance that you will be able to run that event than if you push it back until May when there’s a chance you will have to keep doing so.

rattusrattus20 · 24/03/2020 16:04

a slight relaxation of the current reasonably comprehensive lockdown: 2-4 months.

fully, fully 'back to normal' with no worries/precautions/isolated cases: not for years.

what i'm not clear about is what sits inbetween, e.g. when or how we might take medium sized steps towards normality.

AlternativePerspective · 24/03/2020 16:04

Those saying years, this isn’t a realistic approach.

They need to slow the virus, but they also need to sustain as far as possible the economy. It’s a balancing act and at some point lockdown will need to cease or be relaxed in order for the country not to go bankrupt, even though that will mean another likely spike in infections.

ArriettyJones · 24/03/2020 16:06

Most of 2020, not necessarily all lockdown but restrictions and so on.

Totalfangoolie · 24/03/2020 16:06

AlternativePerspective

I agree. I think people are hoping to never go back to work and think the government are going to keep paying for their wages

AlternativePerspective · 24/03/2020 16:09

what i'm not clear about is what sits inbetween, e.g. when or how we might take medium sized steps towards normality.

nobody knows the answer to that though not even the professionals. Because they don’t know how the virus will behave, whether it will continue to spread or whether it will in fact die out which while unlikely is still a possibility. This is why countries are having to make changes weeks or months at a time ,

The longer people refuse to comply though the longer we will be in this position.

DS has just been out on his bike and he said that it’s busy out there with the roads packed with traffic and people out in groups.

While people continue to have those attitudes we won’t slow the spread.

TheWristBoundLatexBitch · 24/03/2020 16:10

We as Italy are today trying to go till 31st July in lockdown, not before then.

BodiesMakeForGoodFertiliser · 24/03/2020 16:14

I think fully to normal will take longer than year tbh. Just going by certain behaviour of masses.

@AlternativePerspective great post

MarginalGain · 24/03/2020 16:16

How long, realistically, can key workers carry the brunt of the work for the country, can the UK underwrite IOUs, can people stay home?

I agree. I think people are hoping to never go back to work and think the government are going to keep paying for their wages

Do you actually know anyone who feels this way? Confused

Ethelfleda · 24/03/2020 16:18

I’m placemarking so we can hopefully look back at this thread in a few months and say ‘phew, we got back to normal quite quickly’

Though I suspect not.

However, I don’t think it’ll be ‘years’ as they’ll have a vaccine by then. The vaccine will go in to the annual flu jab given to the vulnerable and the rest of us who haven’t had it yet, will get it at some point.

Hippofrog · 24/03/2020 16:19

I can see gathering banned in December so no Christmas crowds and very small Christmas’s for many families. No visits to Santa, no markets nothing

fikel · 24/03/2020 16:20

3 months and schools back before September

alliwantisagoodnightssleep · 24/03/2020 16:23

Honestly 18 months to 2 years. There are normally three waves to a pandemic. The initial outbreak, it gets under control and restrictions are lifted leading to a second outbreak filled by a vaccine being found and a lesser wave. Hopefully this thing doesn’t mutate and they find a vaccine quickly. I think we all have to be aware that this isn’t going to disappear in 3 weeks. We are just trying to give the NHS time to deal with it.