May be ridiculous but my theory

[Happymind]

Is that mother nature is teaching us all a valuable lesson here.

After years of abusing our earth, our environment, the way we have become consumer mad, children playing on gadgets rather than socializing with friends, how we could be sitting next to loved ones whilst continuously on our phones etc. Its almost like some greater being is saying " here you go, this is what you wanted, now you can only use technology to contact loved ones, no socialising, no physical contact, no consumerism, no waste, play xbox and watch Netflix until your hearts content..."

And now that freedom has been taken from us, we crave the simple things so badly. It's like we are resetting our lives and thought processes.

For what it's worth I'm neither religious or a conspirasit. But I cant help but wonder now.

I know lives are being lost and I dont wish to down play that. But I hope I'm making sense here. It feels like its happening for a greater reason.

The air felt so fresh.
Lots of countries have such poor sanitation that I'm scared of a second wave of diseases though. Ebola has not been completely eradicated: a bacterial disease would really wipe us out.

Given the self indulgence I don’t hold out much hope for future if this is the case. All around us we are seeing greed and selfishness.

COVID is not a plan, or revenge, or a”lesson” from some entity

I agree with pp. Scientists have warned for many years, that the southern Chinese habit of eating wild animals ( bats in particular) would eventually result in the spread of a SARS-like disease like Covid 19. Keeping wild, disease-ridden bats in live animal markets was the reason for this epidemic. Nothing to do with "a greater plan" or good old Mother Nature.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/mar/18/tip-of-the-iceberg-is-our-destruction-of-nature-responsible-for-covid-19-aoe

Is our destruction of nature responsible for Covid-19?

I sort of get you OP but I think nature has always won and we had just become complacent.

I worry very much about the underlying health of our nation. We have millions of people with metabolic diseases that exist purely from unhealthy lifestyles and the glorification of poisonous processed foods - and we are very vulnerable here to this virus not just being a disease that attacks elderly people but many many younger and young people because of the state of their health.

We have been told for years and years we have an epidemic of diabetes and obesity.

Epidemic.

A word that we have until now just shrugged off. Yet these are the people who’s inmune systems are compromised now and millions of people are affected. Epidemic gives it away!

m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=CHAnzhRZFZ0

I think sometimes in moments like the OP described we brush up, however lightly against something primordial, something old. Wether that is an outside force or an internal deeply primal psychological aspect of the human psyche. I don’t suppose it much matters which as the result is the same. You realise something profound, transformative and awe inspiring. I’d hold on to that OP and to whatever it means to you.

You might be interested in the Gaia Hypothesis that life on Earth forms a self regulating system to sustain life on Earth. It could be argued that Human activity has messed with the planet, so now it’s long teen strategy is getting rid of us. It’s a theory that has been round since the 1970s. It’s only a theory, it is fairly controversial anyway, so please don’t flame me if you don’t agree.

I totally agree with you op. Not a lesson in sentient form as others have pointed out 🙄, but that we have gone too far and there are consequences for our actions. So many people have a total disconnect from reality, s though humans and animals are completely different. Partly, I imagine, this is due to religion. We are taught we are different.

Lots of societies closer to appreciative of nature know this to be true : We are animals and part of one big ecosystem.. Our superior intellect does not make us superior or immune to the consequences of disrupting the system. If anything, it actually makes us stupid.

These things just happen

Our greatest arrogance is to believe that our actions have divine repercussions but they really don't

IMO there's something rings true about the Georgia Guidestones.

This is our chance, globally,to re assess

But we won’t

Humans are selfish

It feels like its happening for a greater reason.

That old chestnut - used by billions of humans over millions of years in an attempt to justify our futile and meaningless existence.

Mother Nature or a bioweapons lab.

Thanks Bike. You beat me to it.

We need reminding that we are creatures too. We are getting that reminder!

Yes, that is ridiculous, OP.

@Shinesweetfreedom just like how the British drinking milk gave them tb. Don’t be a hypocrite.

I heard a speech from a prominent climate change activist in 2008 who said we need a pandemic to knock the population back.

@Dervel
I agree with you. Thank you.

Bio Weapons Lab!

But Mother Nature is a set of interlocked systems isnt she? A balancing act of delicate systems that we dont understand or in some cases even identified yet. We have put all those systems out of Whack and we know that the destruction has been increasing rapidly in the last 50 years or so. I have wondered what it felt like to be part of the great barrier reef and see it die around you. And to feel as helpless as we feel today.

CV is one of her cyclical moments but it just so happens we can cross the face of the earth in 17 hours (or so). We live in densely populated urban places. All the marvels of modern technology make transmission more efficient than anything she ever created before.

We are to blame in ways we probably havent realised yet and I dont think we are enjoying finding out we are very vulnerable and not as clever as we thought we were. This has happened at a moment in our evolution when we need reminding we are very human and what we need and what we want are 2 different things. We are part of something not in charge of it.

That is both ridiculous and offensive OP. People who are seriously ill and/or dying are not doing so because we need to be taught a lesson by any higher power or sentient nature. They just happen to be vulnerable to this virus.

Plagues and other disasters have been inflicted on us by 'mother' nature long before the modern industrial economy. Trying to ascribe some deeper meaning to this, is, imho, a somewhat childish refusal to see the world as it truly is.

The human race has long forgotten it's not the superior race.

The earth is a biology. It's also the place the allows us to inhabit it.

We took advantage.

Now it's fighting back.

I've been saying that for 2 months now.

I don't agree that this is 'mother nature' (although I think Gaia theory is interesting) but I do think we are deeply fucked if we don't take the opportunity to learn some hard lessons from this.

Yesterday I stood out in my garden, in glorious sunshine, with a sky bluer than I've seen for ages above me. No planes, no sound of cars from the road, just birdsong. The air seemed clearer. It was beautiful.

I'd like to think we will, as a species, reassess some of our choices in the wake of this. I'm not too hopeful though.

Plus the whole reason why Coronavirus started. Due to the illegal wildlife trade and horrific meat markets. You play with fire and you will get burned. This is just a warning of worse things to come if we continue to abuse the planet like this.