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Head Teacher among latest UK coronavirus victims

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FreakStar · 23/03/2020 13:53

Please keep your children off school if you possibly can!

Teachers are not in school to save your job! They are not there to enable you to work from home! They are not there so your child doesn't miss their education! They are not there because you can't face looking after them all day! They are not there so your boss can keep his business operating! They are only there to keep absolutely critical workers working!

When this all over I want to return to work with ALL my colleagues.

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Shirleysheep · 23/03/2020 14:56

"You can't assume that she caught it at school."

I live in the area. I have not heard of any other cases linked to the school. This poor lady was one of the earliest local cases.

widdioisright · 23/03/2020 14:56

Why don’t people read the news and stop coming on here to gleefully start threads like this!!

@FreakStar go and do something useful why don’t you.Something very,very wrong with you,rushing to be the bringer of doom.I know several people who have recovered well from this virus,that is the news I want to read.

mamabears3 · 23/03/2020 14:59

Believe me some of us would rather not send out children in to school !!
i am a single mum, i have 3 children (school/nursery)
one has cardiac problems
I am also a highly experienced nhs nurse
given a choice i would much rather be home, safe with my children
i am worried for their health
i am worried for the health of fellow students
i am worried for teachers
i am worried for my nursing and medical colleagues
we at HIGH risk of catching this, we have almost no aprons or gloves and only the regular masks used in theatre so staff dont cough in your wounds
we may get infected
we may spread to our children
who may spread it on

but truthfully...what on earth choice is there ?!

we are all afraid and no situation is ideal

but if nobody helps the likes of me, i cant help the likes of you

The nhs wont support staff staying home because family members are vulnerable, they need all hands on deck

such a tragedy this lady has lost her life. No telling from whom or where she caught this virus.

Please everyone stay calm and respectful.
these are unchartered waters for us all and we must pull together for the greater good

EverythingChanges321 · 23/03/2020 15:01

I support you OP. I think the U.K. needs to go into lockdown now.

Schools were closed in Ireland over a week ago and they’re not open for children of key workers. The schools in other EU countries are closed completely too.

I see hairdressers and others in the U.K. on my Facebook feed still working. In sharp contrast, they all shut shop in Ireland early last week.

I’ve seen stupid posters saying ‘it’s all hype, it’s just the flu’.

What will get through to these idiots who are potentially risking the lives of hundreds of people they don’t know?

NotTerfNorCis · 23/03/2020 15:02

Awful news. Poor woman.

Strugglingtodomybest · 23/03/2020 15:02

It's your use of exclamation marks which have wound posters up OP. It makes it read like you're super excited that a head teacher has died.

ArriettyJones · 23/03/2020 15:03

"You can't assume that she caught it at school."

I live in the area. I have not heard of any other cases linked to the school. This poor lady was one of the earliest local cases.

Right. So she is one of the first (known, confirmed) cases in the area.

That doesn’t help establish whether she caught in school and has potentially spread it to others in her family and community or, vice versa, she caught it in her private life and has spread it to children and colleagues.

The fact that she has it proves absolutely nothing, except that nobody is immune and we should self-isolate - including children - if possible.

And the OP is still sensationalist wailing.

Bulb1976 · 23/03/2020 15:05

Well I just don’t seem many supportive posts about teachers - considering the risk we are taking being with 100’s of germ ridden children with questionable hygiene.

ArriettyJones · 23/03/2020 15:06

It's your use of exclamation marks which have wound posters up OP. It makes it read like you're super excited that a head teacher has died

Quite.

We don’t need MNers relaying breathless tabloid news at us anyway.

If you want to say “X has happened, (source link), I believe the implications are Y” that is a bit different.

Clavinova · 23/03/2020 15:06

she is one of the first (known, confirmed) cases in the area

If she was ill for several weeks she may have travelled abroad at half-term.

CappyCapCap · 23/03/2020 15:09

Well I just don’t seem many supportive posts about teachers - considering the risk we are taking being with 100’s of germ ridden children with questionable hygiene.

Where are you looking. In all the Corona threads here there are tons of posters supporting teachers and agreeing that, even as key workers, our children should not be in school unless it's an absolute last resort.

I would say the majority support teachers and want them safe.

Holdmenow · 23/03/2020 15:10

@AutumnRose1 we closed our schools entirely! Children of key workers (only medical) are being minded by their non key worker parents, children of two medical parents are still being cared for by their parents as they work opposite shifts!!

The problem with the U.K. is there are TOO MANY key workers on the list!!

UKsounding · 23/03/2020 15:10

All schools in (our part of? think all parts?) of Canada shut with only a few hours notice. All day care centres and nurseries also shut - the provincial government announced this at 8.30 am one morning and parents had to return and collect their kids. We had a one week school break (March Break) last week so some families had planned to be off anyway and it has given them time to plan. All the March Break day camps were cancelled and the libraries and rec. centres (pools, skating rinks etc.) are closed though.

Our key workers are showing up and doing their shifts. As many as possible non-essential workers are working from home while essential workers (grocery store workers, postal system, public transit workers) are turning up at work and getting on with it. The usually packed streets of Toronto are empty, our subway system is empty, our entertainment industry is shut, most retail is shut.

How is it getting done? Communities have pulled together - neighbours (many who can't do their normal non-essential jobs e.g. teachers, restaurant and clothing store workers etc.) and high schoolers are stepping up to mind children that need minding. The biggest complaints are that people are taking the kids to the park and letting them play on the swings and slides and potentially lick them which is a public health hazard. employers understand that working from home does not mean 100% efficiency, and that 8-5 with 30 mins for lunch may not be a viable plan for everyone - As long as it gets done asap everyone is rolling with it. People are meeting using Zoom on-line meeting software as and when they can, and everyone understands that peoples pets, small children, dining rooms with dirty dishes etc. are part of the deal.

Seriously UK - it's a crisis. Communities need to lean in, cut each other some slack and help each other. We are all in it together - our health system has limited capacity to cope with the extra load associated with CoVID-19 and EVERYONE is aware that this is life and death as we were affected badly by SARS and many nurses died in that outbreak. The politicians are working together despite have a Liberal federal government and a Conservative provincial government. The Unions are working with the government, even the ones which are currently on strike in Ontario. There is a clear consistent message everywhere that we HAVE to contain the virus, and (for the most part, maybe with the exception of some 24-30 yr olds) we are going to get this done, together. The curve is going to be flattened in the GTA, we will get past this together and then we will stand normal life and the economy back up.

Stay safe everyone

cornishdreams1 · 23/03/2020 15:11

I am so sad for her, the family and the poor children in that school. That really is heartbreaking.

FreakStar · 23/03/2020 15:15

@widdioisright I will and have been doing something useful- I've been at school looking after children of 'key workers'- (and absolutely some of them could have stayed at home if they weren't so intent on continuing to work as normal)- what have you been doing to that's so useful?

BTW She was only diagnosed last week.

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WhatWouldYouDoWhatWouldJesusDo · 23/03/2020 15:16

What isn't reported is the fact that the school was closed when this lady reported symptoms of corona virus. And the school was closed. The hospital refused to test her. ((which is ridiculous given her job)) the school was reopened. And then of course this happened.

It's horrific. It brings it home as I'm from the area. Now all those children. Hell all those parents, grandparents, staff, people working in the corner shop are potential carriers.

There are 20 people in fgh with Corona virus. The ICU is full. The G stands for general. As in the hospital is very basic. It also serves a massive area covering large swathes of Cumbria. Even more now as I imagine transfers will be difficult (( a family member knows someone who's died because he couldn't access dialysis at Preston))

Ffs, stay home. And. If you have no death defying reason to be there as in you live in the area stay the hell out of Cumbria. I'm extremely worried right now. I'm worried for everyone and convinced the reason our very remote area has so many cases of this virus is because of people visiting and second home owners racing up here to isolate - - raid our shops--. We just do not have the infrastructure to manage our area has been massively neglected over the years and right now it's showing.

TheCanterburyWhales · 23/03/2020 15:18

I don't think people objecting to your post OP are objecting to the fact that teachers are at risk by being made to go into school.

It's your "guess what's happened!!!!!!!!!" tone.

It's like those threads where it's almost a race to tell everyone about a terrorist attack or a famous person's death.

Joyfulnhs · 23/03/2020 15:19

Op I'm not going to comment on the title or your post.
I just wanted to send you a very unmumsnet hug Flowers
It's clear that this news has distressed you and I for one will not be unkind to you. We all needed to have the space to be angry and upset with what is happening.

CurlyhairedAssassin · 23/03/2020 15:23

In my own school there are a number of staff off with suspected CV, and also a few kids, that I personally know of, but Our head is not announcing to us how many suspected cases he thinks there may be in school. Probably because he’s not a health expert.

But. I suspect that it is going round our school fairly quickly. Thank god because it is secondary it is totally closed. I really don’t think they could have opened wirh the amount Of suspect illnesses amongst the school population at the moment.

My own children’s school, also secondary, is still open although I don’t know how many children in. There were already kids self-isolating with symptoms last week so I’m not sure that was a wise decision. I realise it’s much more difficult for primary school provision.

I suspect the school of that poor headteacher who died may well have a lot of her school population self-isolating too, but they won’t count as cases because none will have been tested unless hospitalised. So NO-ONE will know, other than through hearsay amongst parents hearing about friends’ kids having to self-isolate.

adaline · 23/03/2020 15:26

As in the hospital is very basic. It also serves a massive area covering large swathes of Cumbria. Even more now as I imagine transfers will be difficult (( a family member knows someone who's died because he couldn't access dialysis at Preston))

It's shocking isn't it?

It doesn't help that the areas served by FGH are extremely rural. It's my nearest hospital and it's about 45 minutes from me. Think about all the tiny rural villages and hamlets around Cumbria who don't have a hospital or a decent GP and who rely on places like FGH for all their healthcare needs.

And people still think it's okay to come up on holiday. GO HOME. Our healthcare system is poor as it is, we don't need you here right now.

CappyCapCap · 23/03/2020 15:27

I see op is totally ignoring the fact that this head teacher is a real person, with a real family who may see this.

So determined to be right, cants be decent at the same time and think of the people devastated by their family member or friend passing away

MintyMabel · 23/03/2020 15:36

ALL of us should self isolate for OUR safety.

Sure. Doctors, nurses, supermarket workers, delivery drivers, police - let’s all just stay at home.

LadyTiredWinterBottom2 · 23/03/2020 15:43

That's awful.

UKsounding · 23/03/2020 15:53

Sure. Doctors, nurses, supermarket workers, delivery drivers, police - let’s all just stay at home.

You obviously can't. However...

It is NOT a good idea for children who are in intimate contact with parent(s) who are in contact with the sick to send time with everyone else's children. Families of key-workers should be self-isolating, not sending time with other children/families.

If one parent is a non-key worker, keep the kids home and have the non-key worker parent care for them.

if you are a single parent who is a key worker, or both parents are key-workers, consider sending the kids to relatives, or employ a neighbour to care for them (preferably without any other children around)
Worst comes to the worst, parents need to work opposite shifts.

GranolaBars · 23/03/2020 15:53

OP’s title is “Head Teacher Dead”, right? Or has it been changed? To me that sounds completely factual, with no “sensationalism” whatsoever. Something like “Head Teacher Takes Last Gasping Breaths Before Being KILLED by COVID!!!!!!” along with actual links to the Daily Fail would be different. But what OP wrote could easily have been a newspaper headline — just the facts. I know this is an emotional time for everyone but keeping a bit of perspective will be better for all of us in the long run.