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Did God create Coronavirus?

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NowSissyThatWalk · 23/03/2020 13:16

I'd really like to have a respectful discussion if possible!
I'm an atheist. I've seen a lot of churches etc posting on our local pages offering live services/ prayers etc.
I have to ask and I'm too scared to ask them directly
Surely if God created all, and is master of all our fates, he created Coronavirus? Or is it one of those 'We are in charge of our own destiny, he can't stop bad things from happening' situations?
Genuinely interested and hope this is taken in the vein it's intended.

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IpeartreeI · 23/03/2020 13:38

They'll try to explain it being because humans haven't looked after the earth and taken proper care of things like god told them to and this has happened as a result. They also use this reason to explain earthquakes, disease, famine, flood etc.

Hingeandbracket · 23/03/2020 13:39

The is no God HTH

Blackdog19 · 23/03/2020 13:40

What pear tree said

Knocksomesense · 23/03/2020 13:41

Husband said yesterday that things were just going right for us so the universe intervened and decided to pull out all the stops just to prevent our lives from going well for a change so according to him we are responsible

BamboozledandBefuddled · 23/03/2020 13:42

My view is this. 'If' there is a god and 'if' CV is the latest suffering he/she/it has chosen to inflict on humanity, then they're not a god I would want anything to do with anyway.

myohmywhatawonderfulday · 23/03/2020 13:46

The short answer is 'no' he didn't create it but as the earth is the Lord's and everything in it - he has final responsibility.

As a Christian, the way he took responsibility was on the cross.

The cross is a symbol of all the hurt, pain, sorrow, viruses, blackness and disconnection of a human heart being laid on God himself.

The resurrection is the symbol to show that those things were able to be destroyed. God overcame them.

BUT we live in the 'now but not yet time' so the cross and ressurection has happened and we can spiritually access God at anytime but the full re-ordering of a new heaven and new earth, hasn't arrived yet. So we still live with the consequences of the old order of things.

Which is why terrible things still happen. A christian's response to this is to say 'its shit but He is still good' and that is where our faith comes in. We trust in His goodness - despite what we can see around.

A second response is..shit happens - what can we do to help to represent His goodness in this darkness.

lamppostdog · 23/03/2020 13:51

God isn't real

OchonAgusOchonO · 23/03/2020 13:51

I did get irrationally irritated with a letter from the school concluding with "The blessings of God be upon our school community".

The school is a bit OTT with religion at the best of times though. I'm in rural Ireland so stuck with a catholic school whether I like it or not.

BecauseReasons · 23/03/2020 13:53

I don't know, maybe. Think of it as culling, perhaps. Like we do to species that threaten to overrun their habitat. If God created everything, surely He's also looking out for all the animals and plants we're gleefully destroying? Not to mention the Earth itself. Omelettes and eggs etc.

OchonAgusOchonO · 23/03/2020 13:55

@ myohmywhatawonderfulday - So we still live with the consequences of the old order of things.

But if God is all powerful, why is he so slow about fixing things? Also, surely he is also responsible for the old order of things?

chipsandgin · 23/03/2020 13:57

Er, no, what with him not existing and all that.

NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite · 23/03/2020 13:58

Did God make it?

Some scientists have researched it and say it could only have been created in a Bio-safety level 4 laboratory. This is the type of lab that was set up in 2017 in Wuhan, China, 20 miles away from the Huanan Seafood Market, to study some of the most dangerous pathogens in the world. Scientists currently believe it mutated and jumped to people through animal-human contact at the market.

FuckOffCorona · 23/03/2020 13:59

I’m an atheist too, but my view is that given God is supposed to be the lord of all living things and humans have been hell-bent on destroying the planet and driving swathes of wildlife to extinction, I can see why he would think a plague to wipe a chunk of us out and try to salvage the planet might be justified.

longwayoff · 23/03/2020 14:01

No. Made by Satan himself, obviously.

MoonlightMistletoe · 23/03/2020 14:05

I have no idea tbh but I'd think the government(s) are more likely to have made it than God.

CrunchyCarrot · 23/03/2020 14:07

God created everything, including viruses. We have to accept our own responsibility with this particular one, though, if it has come from wet markets originally, it makes it far easier for viruses to species-jump and then we humans pay the price. It's not the first pandemic and it won't be the last.

This planet is under our stewardship and we aren't doing a very good job, to be honest. God is not going to intervene as we have free will and must tackle these challenges ourselves, he did give us brains after all! Terrible things will still happen, it's up to us how we respond.

Snowflakes1122 · 23/03/2020 14:08

No, but I believe someone playing god in a lab in Wuhan creates this!

TheVanguardSix · 23/03/2020 14:08

No.
We did.

Wanderlust21 · 23/03/2020 14:09

Ugh. Hate posts like this.
If god created us, we should be fucken thankful and stop our damn winging. And yet many people only have the gaul to recognise him when something bad happens in their lives. And somehow - it's his fault?

No. Man made coronavirus. With poor hygiene and by living on top of one another.

Personally, I believe in god. I just dont think it's his responsibility to wipe our arses. He's probably off doing other stuff. And good on him! Creative geniuses shouldnt be stuck babysitting a bunch of kids who never grow up and take responsibility for their own actions.

BuzzingtheBee · 23/03/2020 14:10

Nope as god is not real

TheFaerieQueene · 23/03/2020 14:13

I don’t understand how, if you are an atheist, you can pose this question? I’m an atheist so don’t believe in any god, therefore I can’t possibly think a god created CV-19.

Allaboardthemagicbus2020 · 23/03/2020 14:13

@Snowflakes and @NotEverythingIsBlackandwhite

So, it is a virus that has always existed in animals? The difference is now it has crossed the animal - human pathway?

myohmywhatawonderfulday · 23/03/2020 14:15

@OchonAgusOchonO

That is a good question. A question I have asked God myself. What on earth could make the level of human suffering I see around 'worth it'? Why not just speed up the Revelation 21 vision ..of a new heaven and a new heart where there is no more pain, or crying because the old order has passed away.

In about 2004??? when the Tsumami struck Indonesia - I remember watching and crying my heart out to God..I was saying to him 'why? this is so terrible, it's all too much'... And while I was praying and crying my eye fell on my bible..and then I opened it and it opened to the book of Habbakuk...so I read it. And it was about Habbakuk crying out to God and saying 'why? It's all so bad, why?' And the final lines of the book end with (paraphrase) ...Even though its all so bad..still I will praise you'.

And so I don't know why. I took what happend with reading Habbakuk, as my instruction to take the same attitude, even though its all so bad still I will believe in His goodness.

Many people have tried to explain the problem of pain and suffering..and the most truthful answer is' I don't know but in the middle of it all I will still say He is good and I trust Him that at some point this will 'all be well'. That is where the faith and trust come in.

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Moodymagpie · 23/03/2020 14:20

.... I think people on here should have a little respect. Religion and faith is a matter of individual perspective. By saying God doesn't exist is being extremely rude.

As for the original question. I choose to believe this is simply mother nature....

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