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To ask where the "it's just flu" people have gone?

148 replies

ofwarren · 21/03/2020 08:33

When people started discussing the virus on here a few weeks back, they would get ridiculed or told they were scaremongering as it was "just flu".
Those people seem very quiet lately.
Are there many still around with that opinion?

OP posts:
iamapixie · 21/03/2020 10:12

Fatted and millymolly: agree with you, and these are reasoned arguments. Q

Findawaytobehappy · 21/03/2020 10:14

I admit I was in denial.
But there is no need to start such a goady thread, OP.

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 10:14

There are still some people on this thread who don't seem to get it 5% of people who get corona have to be put on a ventilator. That is an enormous percentage. Mortality is only 1% if this happens. Where it doesn't mortality is higher.
And I am hmm at the government now saying mortality rate of 0.5%. That is lower than any other country has had in spite of them having more ventilators per head per population than we do.

alloutoffucks · 21/03/2020 10:18

I am also amazed at GPs not getting it. The information has been available for a few months to anyone paying attention. Sure most in the general public will not have realised, but GPs should not be saying it is nothing to worry about.

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 21/03/2020 10:27

5% of people who get corona have to be put on a ventilator

Isn't that 5% of people ill enough to already be in hospital? There's a massive difference.

vegas888 · 21/03/2020 10:32

What percentage of those 5% would be in hospital with seasonal flu anyway.

LizzyButton · 21/03/2020 10:35

The Penn model being used by some US hospitals assumes the following: 5% hospitalisation, 2% intensive care and 1% needing ventilators.

Model here, but it is for inputting data about your institution's currently hospitalised patients etc. You can see those percentages already set up on the left side. They can be altered as they are provisional.

penn-chime.phl.io/

Lockheart · 21/03/2020 10:38

But for the vast majority of people it IS nothing to worry about, @alloutoffucks.

That doesn't mean we shouldn't be practicing social distancing to help stop the spread to the elderly / venerable but it does mean that most people don't need to get into such a panic about having it themselves.

slipperywhensparticus · 21/03/2020 10:40

They are on facebook telling people kids dont get it so reopen the schools no children die EVER from ANYTHING

And sticking a rainbow in your window is illegal according to the POLICE and paedophile and burglars will know you have kids if you do (it was a care home that was doing it not a place usually known for children living there)

PumpkinP · 21/03/2020 10:41

I was laughed at on fb and called ridiculous for daring to say I felt worried by it, I was asked if I was scared of flu aswell and people kept putting laughing faces on my comment. Funny how they’ve all gone silent now, yes I would actually like to hear what they think now!

DianaT1969 · 21/03/2020 10:42

I'm quite relieved that some posters have stopped snapping 'FFS post this in the right thread!' Coronavirus was encroaching on so many areas of our lives, but they wanted to isolate it to a single health thread. Presumably so they could hide it. I did remind them that on Android there's a MN bug that stops people being change thread from the last one they posted. I'm forever stuck on 'chat'. App crashes when you try to change it.
They've disappeared thank goodness.

TheCanterburyWhales · 21/03/2020 10:43

The MN ones (all now either left the site bizarrely or namechanged) who called me a lying scaremongerer last weekend are probably still in bed hungover from their last night in Spoons for the foreseeable.

The two teachers who called me a liar for saying we were doing online teaching are still busy haranguing other people in the "staffroom"

I expect the rest are still in the queue down Asda.

Iggly · 21/03/2020 10:44

At the end of the day, saying I told you so helps no one. Not a person.

What we need to do is listen to government advice and act on it completely.

We need to take responsibility for our health and of those we are caring for.

The time will come for asking questions as to why the fuck the government has gouged the NHS out making us unprepared, why the fuck they didn’t listen to WHO, and learn some hard lessons.

But that time isn’t now.

I didn’t think this was just the flu, but plenty of friends did and some of those are now in isolation. Saying “I told you so” would be an awful thing to do. I just hope they get well and it isn’t the actual coronavirus. (which we won’t know due to lack of testing)

PumpkinP · 21/03/2020 10:47

It was ok when it was those people laughing at us and calling us ridiculous though Hmm

P1nkHeartLovesCake · 21/03/2020 10:47

What is the actual point in this thread? Even in a time like this do people really need to say I told you so 🙄 people really are a bit shit sometimes

For the vast majority this virus IF they get, it will be nothing to worry about.
Yes some people are more at risk which is why they have been encouraged to self isolate and why we are all hopefully washing hands more and staying away from anyone we know in the at risk group.

TheCanterburyWhales · 21/03/2020 10:49

No it doesn't Iggly, but people on MN have been treated appallingly over the last few weeks.
None of us wanted to be right, but to be called liars, scaremongerers and be told over and over "a quick Google shows me you are talking bollocks" is reprehensible.

LizzyButton · 21/03/2020 10:50

My personal hunches (and they are just that) are that the percentage needing hospital or hospital level care will be much lower due to many asymptomatic infections and a lot of low level is it / isn't it cases. We are no longer logging infections in the UK so working out %s is going to be a challenge.

I'm now on day 9 and my husband is on day 8. I'm over it apart from an occasional clearing of my throat. I don't claim to be a typical case as we just don't know what the spread of symptoms and impacts here will be yet. If I knew in advance that the symptoms in someone with my genes, general health and lack of complicating factors would not lead to a serious situation, and that the scary never had this before upper chest pain would pass, it would have all amounted to an inconvenience and nothing more.

This is clearly a life-threatening disease for some. I would be interested in knowing the likelihood of ending up in intensive case with one or more pre-existing medical conditions v those with none. It is clearly higher for the former group, but how imbalanced are things?

TheHarryFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 21/03/2020 10:51

We’re still here! Just realised that you were right and this is a big deal!

MadameMeursault · 21/03/2020 10:52

I was talking to a NHS consultant the other day who said basically it is just like flu, it’s a bit over-hyped and only really a worry if you have underlying health conditions. Not trying to underplay it, as flu is obviously serious too. The problems are that there is no vaccine or immunity currently, and it’s very contagious.

If you look at the stats from the Diamond Princess the death rate isn’t that high and the recovery rate is pretty good, and the people on there were probably pretty old. Everyone would have been tested though. I think the general death rates look more scary than they are because there are a lot of people who’ve had it and recovered who aren’t in the stats because they haven’t been tested.

LizzyButton · 21/03/2020 10:54

from their last night in Spoons for the foreseeable.

The Spooners are already hitting the supermarkets stocking up on booze.

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 21/03/2020 10:54

To be fair OP, NOONE could have predicted this. We had SARS and swine flu and they didnt result in these consequences did they? and I bet some people scaremongered about them too. When it started we had no clue it would result in this mess of such epic proportions. So I understand why people were reticent to start panicking the moment it emerged - because this is completely unprecedented.
But if it makes you feel better - yes you were right and they were wrong.

Feel better now?

floatygoat · 21/03/2020 10:55

My mum banned me from talking about this virus several weeks ago and laughed at my prepping. She rolled her eyes when I told her to prepare. She shook her head and said "never" when I predicted she may be contacted to come out of retirement and nurse again.

Now all she talks about is this virus and how irresponsible and stupid everyone else is.

She's never said "you were right and I was wrong".

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TheCanterburyWhales · 21/03/2020 10:57

It could have been predicted from a month back when news started coming out of Italy.
That's when the "you're lying" posters started their abuse of those saying "hold on a minute, this is looking bad".

AlexisCarringtonColbyDexter · 21/03/2020 10:58

Why do you want to hear what people have to say about it now

I have to agree- does the fact some people have lost their jobs and lost loved ones mean they've received just punishment for not panicking the second corona emerged? This is a very mean spirited post