Banning sake of alcohol

[nicknackpaddy]

I wonder if shops should voluntarily stop this or the government should ban it to help protect vulnerable children and adults from the expected rise in domestic violence cases.

One gin manufacturer is stopping production and making hand sanitizers instead, maybe others could do this too.

There would be riots OP.

And yeah the police and local governments have nothing better to do than police a pointless alcohol ban

A bad idea for several reasons -

• it would drive sales underground and people would buy dangerous 'fake' vodka etc.
• we need to keep morale up
• a violent abuser deprived of alcohol would be just as dangerous as a drunken one
• if people can enjoy a drink at home they are more likely to stay in

Abusers abuse because they are abusive cunts, they are just as likely to abuse because they want booze and can't get it.

Prohibition never works and causes way more problems than it can ever solve.

Ridiculous, and I say that as someone who’s pregnant and having to deal with all this stress without a glass of wine. I’ve actually copied fine without booze in this pregnancy but last night I said to DH that if at any point in this I could have a one-off half bottle of wine, it would have been then.

Alcohol is the only way I'm going to cope with being stuck with my family for 3 months. Yab so u. Your post has made me want to go and stockpile wine just in case.

"- people can enjoy a drink at home they are more likely to stay in"

Good point, but if your tipple is Italian red, you might need to stockpile

When mine attacked me he was stone cold sober.

As someone who has lived with an abuser who used to put the abuse down to alcohol, Lundy Bancroft's 'Why does he do that?' was a lightbulb moment in realising that it isn't the alcohol.

Plenty of people drink alcohol and do not abuse - they might drink dysfunctionally, they might even be alcoholics - but they drink without becoming violent or abusive.

Plenty of non or infrequent drinkers, on the other hand, are abusers.

I'd recommend the book above to anyone who is living with an abuser and blaming alcohol - 'everything would be all right if he stopped drinking' - no, sadly, that's an illusion.

It's a well intentioned idea but it would make things worse. My ex was at his most violent when deprived of alcohol. If I just left him alone to get drunk, he'd mostly just drink himself into a stupor. The safest thing for someone living with a violent alcoholic, right now, is to find a way to set them up in their own room. Make an excuse to set up a room for them with all their entertainment and let them stay fairly ensconced in their own drunken delusion. Close the door on them and keep yourself and any children away from them as much as possible. And think about how when this is over that life would be the same only 1000X better when you don't have to tiptoe around a drunken arse stashed in a room of your house.

YABU, can people who like a little drink have something they enjoy keep.

I'm planning to cook a nice meal tonight and have a drink with it. I want a bit of a treat in these hard times.

Lightheartedly, I think the NHS is only running just now on wine.

Personally, I’ve adopted chocolate but lots of colleagues are really looking forward to a drink when they get home to get through some incredibly difficult days.

Someone started a thread earlier this week proposing that all sales of tobacco be banned. That one actually went slightly better than this but it got deleted.

This is a terrible idea. If you lockdown the general public that hard, with more anymore restrictions you are going to get a backlash, and a very unpleasant one. Its like an air mattress- you cant press down on one bit without it springing up somewhere else.
Locking people down hard and banning alcohol would likely cause people to become belligerent and pissed off and when that happens you are at risk of riots and disturbances of public order.

YABVVU

Ha Ha, its the alcohol thats keeping me going

I don’t drink so would make no difference to me. However a lot of people find a glass at night, so may do more harm than good.

My mum was an alcoholic and would have seizures if she stopped drinking. I suspect there are a lot of people in this position.
Self inflicted or not, the NHS doesn’t need the extra strain.

what an ignorant post.

Yes. Banning alcohol stops domestic violence.

Have you any idea of what criminal activities, dangerous illegally made etc impact there is when you ban alcohol? Not to mention that alcohol consumption in certain circumstances is linked to positive health outcomes (a glass of red wine etc).

This suggestion is based on a guess about what might help, I'm glad the government has a higher threshold before banning something legal. You know... Like evidence and expertise in the topic.

Yanbu

Not the solution to DV.

No.
If my husband couldn’t drink he would suffer withdrawal symptoms very badly and even seizures. So no. Just no.

Nice one op, put another industry out of business see how that will help anyone.

Alcohol absolutely batters your immune system.

It really doesn't.

It's bad in other ways, for sure, but it doesn't make you immune compromised.

My alcoholic mother battered the shit out of my father and me, she didn’t do it sober. I’m probably basing my views on horrible experience alone but YANBU OP. I shudder for all the victims of abuse out there who are now trapped.