To say please don't go to your second home

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With talk of London going into lockdown tomorrow can I remind second home owners that Cornwall has one hospital. Devon has four hospitals. Where I live in Devon there is no food in any of the supermarkets. Please, please stay away, our communities cannot deal with an influx.

I wonder if London hospitals are unable to cope with the numbers too. So unable to cope that government is actually hoping some people leave . . . ?

Yes maybe they wanted exodus.

I live in a coastal holiday area too, people have the gall to brag on our local online community board that they are coming to stay in their static caravans 'no matter what' as they may as well isolate here. Really immoral behaviour in my opinion, there is a large community of elderly people here, and families with children. We have barely anything in the shops and a small medical centre with the nearest hospital miles away.

People are already upset with the idea that their families could be at risk from people coming from elsewhere. Luckily Boris has now told the leisure industry to close down, there has been some relief locally as this may put some off.

I should also say that not all of us in tourist areas are “all for the tourist pounds” . I feel a local economy reliant in tourism is very fragile, and tourism makes life in Summer dismal for residents.

Reliant on, not in. Typo.

100% correct. People can have it and not know for two weeks and spread the virus. Elderly in-laws live in Cornwall and really worried about them. We are taking down a food parcel from Somerset on Monday and leaving it outside the house, waving at them and returning home. Unfortunately they won’t except any help and have a very Cornish stubborn streak !

Incubation can be over three weeks in some cases. If We can spread the flow of the disease more slowly round the UK then hospitals will also be able to help each other, and fewer people will die.

I haven't RTFT but please consider emailing your MP about this to get government to address this important issue:

members.parliament.uk/constituencies/

I totally agree. Our local noticeboards have had posts from caravan owners jollying themselves to move to our rural seaside location for the season. There seemed to be no comprehension that we are all in the same boat. We have one completely overstretched hospital, no food in the shops and a high proportion of our residents are elderly or vulnerable. They will spread the disease, put numerous lives at risk, all in the selfish pursuit of their holidays - thinking that we will all be carrying on as normal to entertain them. We're not. Many are isolating and social distancing, and some of the more reputable holiday companies have closed down. I like many others have put my holiday on hold and am doing my bit to help people in our community. They should do the same.

*Nanny0gg

Who the hell are the 9% who disagree?*

• the parents of virtually every other child in my son’s class - all skedaddled to their “country” homes last week, leaving only five kids in class

• my mother, who thinks “the country” is better because it’s healthier - and chooses to gloss over theIr local hospital, which is known as “No Hope”

• my close friend with a second home in Suffolk (town mentioned on this thread) who has just taken two teenagers there for the duration

• my son’s father who has sent his three teenage kids to his house in a remote county which has also been mentioned in this thread

I have no intention of going anywhere.
London has lots of huge teaching hospitals, lots of parks, lots of Ocado slots and lots of some loo roll in our local Co-op.

Wow! no empathy for London or fellow human beings at all on here.

No hospital will be able to cope London or otherwise.

You really aren't kidding anyone, you are only thinking of yourselves.

Meyoyandlulutoo we're probably neighbours! If I meet any of these static caravan boasters I will glower at them most unpleasantly :)

I don’t have a second home to go to unfortunately, but do live in London.

I did have to go to hospital once when we were on holiday near Lyme Regis, with suspected appendicitis. It was the emptiest, cleanest, loveliest hospital I had ever seen. We didn’t see one other patient there and they were willing to take my appendix out there and then.

DH and I have always said if we got really sick it would be worth getting a taxi all the way to that hospital. London hospitals are full to the seams and dirty.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/18/hospitals-outside-london-danger-overwhelmed-major-coronavirus/

Looking at hospitals numbers London has more than Wales

www.interweavetextiles.com/how-many-hospitals-uk/

Readyme

@Toomuchtrouble4me did you bring food with you?Where you already isolating from your DH

Yes I did bring food and we have a well stocked larder and deep freeze here. Went to bookers in London and got Loo rolls etc before we left. I was trying to isolate from DH before I left - he would come in, wash his hands and isolate from us in the bedroom, I slept in the spare room but we shared Kitchen, door handles etc. It just didn’t feel safe. Couldn’t move kids in to dad’s tiny flat. We have a large mansion flat in London but no private garden and If we’re going g to be in for months I want kids to have outdoor space. It feels almost inevitable that DH will get it and then me and then kids. Also my dad couldn’t cope alone for all that time.
As for hospitals - Of course I’m worried being away from the finest hospitals in the country - it was a huge decision and not made lightly - but I’m hoping not to need them, that’s the idea of being here. And I have many friends in London hospitals - believe me, they can’t cope either.
It’s all very well being sanctimonious but If you felt that your family were in danger and that you could keep them safer elsewhere then you would do the same.
In fact I was on Mumsnet a couple of weeks ago trying to decide if to leave London or not and the vote was a huge yes.

A friend of mine is a consultant in a London hospital. Our London hospitals are always overcrowded. She often has patients from all over the UK sent to her hospital because the local ones are out of ideas.
So how about you keep your pasta only for locals and when you need to come into out already overcrowded hospitals with rare diseases we’ll say ‘Sorry live, locals only, go and die...” Sound fair?

We live on a holiday island on Scotland and already the tourists are flocking here. We have one small hospital with no special care facilities yet everyone thinks its a great idea to come here where we are currently virus free!

So how about you keep your pasta only for locals and when you need to come into out already overcrowded hospitals with rare diseases we’ll say ‘Sorry live, locals only, go and die...” Sound fair?

I doubt many people in poor rural areas like Cornwall have a second home in London 🙄

Your analogy is poor anyway because a transfer to a specialist hospital under medical advice is hardly comparable to people coming to second homes when they have no need to and spreading the virus round when we’re supposed to be controlling it. Even the National Trust have said to stay in your local area.

We've already run out of beds at our local hospital. So let's just hope you lot who are determined to exercise your rights to use your second homes don't need one.

Cornwall and Devon:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-51975411

MPs and council officials are saying don’t come to Devon or Cornwall.

I heard that on the radio Clymene, that one hospital ICU had already declared a state of emergency because it has no more capacity. Guessing that’s yours. Sorry to hear that, keep safe.

YANBU at all but I don't expect they will listen.

Breatheandfocus
I doubt many people in poor rural areas like Cornwall have a second home in London 🙄
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There are people who have two homes, who live in both. Not at the same time obviously but consider both to be homes. For example, they work in one place and have weekends and time off, etc, in the other. One of my ex bosses had a home in London and one in East Anglia and didn't consider either to be 'part time'. No idea what he is doing now, long since retired but I would think he and his wife are very sensible, both worked in hospitals.

When my husband was alive and working he had a business in East Anglia and we had a flat there, it was very nice indeed but it was home, more his than mine because he was there more than me and he always had cupboard, fridge and freezer stocked. I've wondered what would have happened had the corona virus been around then - he'd have preferred to be here in London because at least we have a garden and could go down the road where there are woods and ponds, avoiding others of course. In a flat, even with juliet balconies at either end of the sitting room, he'd have been stuck!

It's selfish to go away unprepared and possibly spread contamination to locals but it isn't always that way, each case is different.

As long as a home is well stocked so nobody needs to go into the town or village, everyone will be safe.

I live in north wales. Campsites are already filling up. Hospitals are already stretched. We have few cases so people think it's safe but the more arrive the less safe it becomes. I'm planning in spending most of my time at home avoiding them and taking the kids for walks in the places the tourists don't go. I am scared about how the local nhs will cope tbh.