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To say please don't go to your second home

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Beesisabuzzin · 19/03/2020 07:04

With talk of London going into lockdown tomorrow can I remind second home owners that Cornwall has one hospital. Devon has four hospitals. Where I live in Devon there is no food in any of the supermarkets. Please, please stay away, our communities cannot deal with an influx.

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TossACoinToYourWitcher · 20/03/2020 07:37

Coronavirus is rampant in Cumbria. I know loads of people with symptoms that have developed in the last week or so. Give it another week or so and we'll be seeing huge numbers with serious symptoms.

We have three hospitals, and one is running on a skeleton staff due to ongoing recruitment issues.

Karma is going to bite these second home owners.

MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 07:38

Good point Frankie

Also agree re K&C higher proportion of mobile people and wonder if it’s because they believe it won’t affect them. Also if they don’t think about how it will effect the more at risk or they know and don’t care.

WestWasnt · 20/03/2020 07:42

As a PP has said, don’t come to Cumbria either, we have very limited hospital beds left, the supermarket had no meat on Thursday when I went (bar a pack of venison sausages). Lots of other empty shelves. Plus you’ll probably have more support at home, neighbours, family, friends. It would be so selfish to travel and spread this around the country even more.

namemypuppyplz · 20/03/2020 07:44

I know. I'm starting to worry about people flooding to Scotland.

theghostwriter · 20/03/2020 13:04

Name my pup we just cancelled our proposed Scottish holiday, we reckoned people on the remote isles might be as keen to see Norfolk folk as we are to welcome those from the big city! When this is over, we'll rebook and bring the tourist ££, which I know from experience helps the local economy. And we'll try and show the same respect for local people as we hope to receive from visitors to Norfolk.

I really don't regard all people from London as the problem, I have friends and family members with second homes in Norfolk. They like to think of themselves as locals, but they head off back to London as soon as they need health care, even our opticians aren't good enough for them. So not doing much to raise the standards of the local area, but boy have they changed the character of the sleepy little town they've moved into! It's beyond recognition for most locals now, but no matter, they can't afford to live there anyway.

Nevertheless, my friends are kind generous people who would really like to be part of the local community and the problem is not their fault as individuals, it's to do with economics - who has money and who doesn't. There are many many Londoners who will never afford houses at those prices and probably can't even come up here for a holiday. I don't have a prejudice against Londoners, but the fact remains, the second home owners who are creating these issues are almost all from London and there is a groundswell if ill feeling among priced out locals.

That's the underlying issue, but the burning issue right now is that by travelling around, people will spread the virus, it's happened in Italy. So while I understand and sympathise with those who are afraid and looking for an escape route, it's human nature after all, maybe people can also understand the fear that we have when we think of their imminent arrival.

I suspect that the government is still pursuing a watered down version of their original 'herd immunity' strategy (prioritising the economy by letting nature take its course) because they can see what happened in Italy as well as we can, but they aren't preventing people from mixing or travelling. And before you say they can't stop people on the motorways, they did during the miners' strike when it suited their political agenda, so I suppose not doing it now also suits their agenda.

Madcats · 20/03/2020 13:10

Lordy me. The Beeb is warning that we might need "most of the year", with a period of easing then another period of strong measures for all this social distancing.

This is all to ease pressure on the NHS (based on the Imperial College modelling).

MarshaBradyo · 20/03/2020 13:24

Not sure any government can pay the wage bill for a year.

EmpressoftheMundane · 20/03/2020 15:47

Madcats

Makes you start to think that sparing no expense on the NHS would be the cheaper option...

ShesGotBetteDavisEyes · 20/03/2020 15:58

We’re not going to our holiday home. Dh is still threatening to go but he‘ll change his tune when he realises none of us are going with him!

I like our neighbours who live there and wouldn’t want to upset them by turning up with our possible germs, it would be disrespectful and selfish.

And if we did get sick Id rather be near our 3 large up to date hospitals and be comfy in our nice house where we can all escape one another. The kids have to share bunk beds in the holiday home!

exiledfromcornwall · 20/03/2020 17:03

Just spotted this on the Cornwall Live website www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/tourism-boss-says-who-should-3964695

ThistleTits · 20/03/2020 17:34

That's the reason the 🤡 should be crystal clear on what social isolation means or lock down the full country.

Toomuchtrouble4me · 20/03/2020 17:54

Well I’m from London and I’m currently in my holiday home. My dad is 88 and was so upset at having to isolate alone. He has a heart condition. My self and 2dc have asthma. My DH is an essential NHS worker and we were more at risk staying there with him possibly contaminating us than bringing dad here with me and DC. We also have outdoor space here which we don’t have in London. We drove here and are isolating so won’t be spreading virus and hopefully through isolating won’t need hospital services. I know you love a Londoner-bash but you’re all for the tourist pounds, where I am the whole area is totally tourism dependent.
At the end of the day we all try to do what we think is best to keep our family alive.

payens · 20/03/2020 18:03

AGREED. Stay at home.

theghostwriter · 20/03/2020 18:10

Well, they're all here. Reports from Wells Next Sea, it's been like a Saturday in summer apparently. No surprises there.

VillaChris · 20/03/2020 18:14

Totally agree. Only thought this yesterday, bet we’ll have loads of DfL number plates over here soon!

Kathygnome · 20/03/2020 18:16

I live in a resort area in the states and they've just announced drive up testing will only be available with a referral from a doctor who's part of our local health system because the number of outsiders is overwhelming the system.

MissyJane2 · 20/03/2020 18:18

Well I feel better today. So I think my cold or flu is going away.
I think the going out has maybe done me good as the cold air may have taken my temperature down( if I had one) which I don't know as I have not got a thermomiter.

But if I am feeling better that mean I have not got the coronavirus, hopefully.

Readyme · 20/03/2020 18:19

@Toomuchtrouble4me did you bring food with you? Where you already isolating from your DH?

cloudspotter · 20/03/2020 18:22

Sad to see so many people feeling justified to scapegoat all Londoners, as usual, with causing all society's ills. Its medieval - as if London has been designated a plague zone.

They are just people like everyone else. There aren't abundant hospital beds in London either, the whole NHS is underfunded. No-one is special or different when it comes to this virus, we are all going to get it spreading round our areas.

All the supermarkets in London are empty, the hospitals are full. The problem coming all of our way is not Londoners fault in any way, a shame to see this insularity and isolationism. I'm so glad I don't live in a narrow minded community which would ask for proof of address in local shops, I think that's rubbish behaviour and should be frowned upon.

bemusedmoose · 20/03/2020 18:23

I'm on the outskirts of London, I've told people further south not to come up and risk taking it back. I won't be travelling other than for food - not that there is anything!

Foramen · 20/03/2020 18:24

YANBU at all. Stay away from Cornwall. Or, if you must evacuate then as soon as you arrive (having brought a fortnight's food), isolate for two weeks before venturing out.

Lynda07 · 20/03/2020 18:28

Foramen Fri 20-Mar-20 18:24:45
YANBU at all. Stay away from Cornwall. Or, if you must evacuate then as soon as you arrive (having brought a fortnight's food), isolate for two weeks before venturing out.
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That's what I think, Foramen, but preferably with more than a fortnight's food and not go out at all. Not much point really unless someone is worrying about their property I suppose.

Sweetpea84 · 20/03/2020 18:37

Those who don’t live in London and who then find the need to use one of our hospitals. Please kindly don’t leave it for us London folk . Thanks

rebbonk · 20/03/2020 18:41

Too late, the neighbours have already gone!

Theoldwrinkley · 20/03/2020 18:41

I’m afraid people don’t think of ‘the community as a whole’ but only their own little bit, and if you are (lucky enough) to have a 2nd home, or holiday home, I wonder how much involvement in the community you usually have (or feel you have)? My ex-NDN used to have a holiday cottage in Mousehole. Only used it, maybe 3 weeks a year, and also did a ‘big shop’ before they went down to Cornwall, so never added to the economy of the holiday-home area. When they did work on the house he did it himself (no contribution to local economy) and always took all their materials with them. They then moved to the Canaries....thank heavens! No love lost there!

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