To say please don't go to your second home

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With talk of London going into lockdown tomorrow can I remind second home owners that Cornwall has one hospital. Devon has four hospitals. Where I live in Devon there is no food in any of the supermarkets. Please, please stay away, our communities cannot deal with an influx.

It's not just about you, MissyJane. Let's home you've not sentenced that woman to death, eh?
Well according to the government I could catch it from shaking hands with someone or by standing next to someone.
I have already done that so lets hope I have not already got it.
Maybe I have maybe I haven't.
Maybe I will get it.

if you had the flu, you wouldn't be able to go out even for essentials. I had it a few weeks ago and couldn't lift my head from the pillow for days.

True.
I probably have not got the flue.
It's just a heavy cold I think.

And it's not the "other" (Coronavirus) because if it was I would not be able to breath and would be so weak I would probably be unconscious by now.
Who knows.

But I can't stop living because of it.
If I did I would go mad.

Yes I wouldn’t be leaving London either we have the best hospitals and more staff.

Not just second homes. People are moving to stay with relatives. Just spreading it. How do you know you do not have it already and are assymptomatic? I could not risk giving it to my parents.

Is an exodus from London actually happening?

Bang on, OP. We have a disproportionate number of retired people as it is, without significant numbers of holiday home owners moving in for the duration.There's only one general hospital in the county, and the minor injury units are frequently closed down to allow staff deployment to the main hospital. There's no choice of supermarkets without a 30 mile round trip, and that's in one of the main tourist centres.
The activities people like to do on holiday won't be available, and take it from an incomer: it already felt like there was fuck-all to do before things started being shut down. You'll go bloody mad.

Missy some people are a symptomatic. You cannot be sure you haven’t passed it to someone who will get very ill or die. Social distancing helps stop this.

Glad that you’ve pushed property prices so high that our children can’t afford to live here? Glad that your demand for artisanal wankery means there are no jobs beyond minimum wage retail? Glad that you think because you have a second home in a rural area that you suddenly know everything about the realities of rural living even though you’re insulated from it by your 6 figure London income? Yeah, don’t make me laugh.

If only you'd bothered to read my posts you would know none of that applies to me. But carry on making things up, dear, if it makes you feel better.

Missy some people are a symptomatic. You cannot be sure you haven’t passed it to someone who will get very ill or die. Social distancing helps stop this.

As does it also help prevent you catching a cold or the flue.

I most probably got this flue or cold from sitting next to someone on the train who had it. You know how crowded it gets on the train.
Or I might have got it from a neighbor or from going out without a coat.It's been very warm lately and also the shops turn the heating up sky high so it's way to hot,which doesn't help either.

So it's not surprising I got it.The flue.

But when I got out I don't dare tell anyone I got the flue or should I say a cold. I have not even told my neighbors I am too scared to incase they call someone to take me away to quarantine. Or in this social climate it might cause a riot, So only my GP and NHS 11 knows.
Because I don't dare tell anybody else.

You have to be very careful what you say to people now. A lot of people have become fanatics.
They are afraid so if you have a cold or flue don't tell them.

Sarah doesn’t know the difference between second home owners and tourism, so she won’t have a clue about those issues, ginger.

Yes she does. Are you saying second home owners don't pay council tax?

If they pay then they are entitled to use the services.

As for posting hateful not welcome messages, refusing them service in shops and shit on their doorsteps...

What is wrong with you people?

Pitchforks and torches next?

We are all in the same boat. People aren't going to their second homes because they're being selfish - they're going (from the people I know) because they have immune issues and they want to protect themselves and their children.

Perhaps wrongly, they are assuming they won't get it holed up in their Norfolk cottage and aren't thinking about the pressure on the local hospitals. they are just thinking that they are more likely to get it in London and want to protect their vulnerable relatives.

You all think the worse of everyone!

(I don't have a second home and am in central London).

I've already put my council tax letter in my bag for future reference when I need to go out. There's a lot of talk in private chats about how to save as much for locals as possible. I just got in on a local farm foods delivery service the day before it closes which is a big relief.

I’s be more concerned about the mother’s of babies and toddlers crying outside the Tesco in my part of London who can’t get milk or nappies. Spare a thought hey! It’s awful over here.

But when I got out I don't dare tell anyone I got the flue or should I say a cold. I have not even told my neighbors I am too scared to incase they call someone to take me away to quarantine. Or in this social climate it might cause a riot, So only my GP and NHS 11 knows.
Because I don't dare tell anybody else

Now you are just being ridiculous. Nobody is being "taken away "to quarantine. They are being asked to stay indoors. In their nice homes.

Wales has the lowest numbers of hospital beds pp in the UK, and the oldest people are in the rural areas and coastal villages . Many retired people. No nearby hospitals.
Please be responsible and lower the speed of spread here by staying at home. Please allow the local people to have some chance of a bed if they need one.
Even if you intend to isolate when you get here, you will still need to shop, and you may also fall ill while here. It could even be from something else. Our health service is the least equipped for this in the whole UK.
We have already signs of people arriving, and this could lead directly to more people dying.

As for posting hateful not welcome messages, refusing them service in shops and shit on their doorsteps...

One of those posts was a joke, I assume...

But resources are stretched here. The supermarket (one) was heaving again today because people are panicking that the DFL's are on the way and we need to stock up before they turn up to kit themselves out for three months or however long they deign to stay.

As someone who provides custom in the town all year round, why shouldn't I be prioritized in some ways by my local business owner friends? I won't be prioritized at our tiny cottage hospital. And I won't have the option of saying "bugger it, let's get back to house number one" whenever I feel like it.

Well, if the situation goes like Italy, and of course it will in all probability, the people moving into rural areas will have blood on their hands.
In some areas they are now tracing people down to their family homes via mobile phone tracking.
The south is battening down for its peak contagion over the next few weeks in areas with a much weaker health service presence.
And the irony is that many of those now in ICU are the mothers and fathers who permitted their uni student kids and other relatives to do it.
The exodus out of Milan was also largely what prompted the escalation of lockdown procedures.
Those people, with their selfish desire for a walk in the country will not be forgiven easily...and once you're in lockdown, you can't have the walk anyway.
So all those extra deaths will have been for nothing but sheer bloody selfishness.

Now you are just being ridiculous. Nobody is being "taken away "to quarantine. They are being asked to stay indoors. In their nice homes.
Well on the news it says some people here in the UK have been quarantined in hospital.
But those were people showing symtoms or ones who had just come back from China and the far East.

And it says on the News they can force you into quarantine in hospital if the doctor or hospital says you do have to go to hospital if they think you have symtoms or a carrier and you refuse to go or self isolate.

The Government have just passed a law giving poilce powers to do this.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-police-infected-uk-matt-hancock-commons-a9407636.html

We live very rurally and our neighbours from London have just come here to their second home. Really hope they haven’t brought anything with them!

Yes- if you refuse to self isolate.
If you self isolate, then what's the problem? You are not a risk to others.
The absolute morons who are refusing need the choice taken away, yes.

Well providing you practice social distancing and sensible hygiene precautions Backyard it won’t affect you if they have.

I’ve got a serious question for central London people. How far are you from a hospital, either on foot, by car or by public transport?

PieceOfMaria it might well if they take up a hospital bed that she needs in a non-coves emergency, though.

@MissyJane2 It's NOT JUST ABOUT YOU GETTING IT! It's about SPREADING it.

Also if you think you have flue please stop going round the shops ffs.

People in the south of Italy (2 in my little town) who were reported to the authorities as having come down from Milan were taken forcibly into quarantine. After the initial lockdown people continued to try and move out of cities so new regulations were quickly drafted that said they had to tell the authorities on arrival. Those who didn't were forced into quarantine once found.
It will probably be the same in the UK. Just later.

Yes- if you refuse to self isolate.
If you self isolate, then what's the problem? You are not a risk to others.
The absolute morons who are refusing need the choice taken away, yes.
Well I would be happy to go to hospital or be tested for Cora if my GP or the NHS asked me to.

In fact we probably would be better of in hospital.
At least there we would be fed.

In Central London you are spoilt for choice- probably never more than 15- 20 mins (in current lesser traffic) by car away from 1