Social distancing, reckon we'll comply??

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Just wondering really. It's all so weird and confusing and on this site I have seen people ask if they should attend parties this weekend. No. We need to stay away from others unless necessary. I believe that if we don't comply the government will order the closure of venues and we may even end up ordered indoors. Come on people, we can DO this. We have social media, FaceTime etc. Think of the vulnerable.

It is cowardly of this government to put the responsibility on individuals

I think it's quite incredible how adults are unable to comprehend the difference between necessary and unnecessary social contact. It's also interesting that many people are abdicating their duty to act responsibly by seriously limiting social contact and demanding the government impose a lockdown. Will these same people be crying about a police state when the government does? And more to the point, how will the lockdown be enforced in a country where burglaries don't merit investigation?

Going to work is different. I don't stand cheek by jowl with colleagues, I can in a bar. We hug family, not colleagues (as a rule). The elderly are not at work. Vulnerable are hopefully at home now though.

I will but my 78 year old Mum who has multiple health conditions and my 80 year old step father with reduced lung function won’t because
“They can’t be stuck in the house all day”
I just hope everything closes and is cancelled so they don’t have a choice
He is her carer (with some outside assistance) and I’ve told them that if they become ill other than drop supplies on their doorstep I won’t be able to help them at all

@BovaryX

So, a barman has to tell his boss he can't come in and risk the sack? A cleaner? A care worker?

Low paid people who can't work from home.

If the gov declared a lockdown, they wouldn't have to do the that.

So, a barman has to tell his boss he can't come in and risk the sack? A cleaner? A care worker?

What do you suggest the government does about low paid workers?

Declare a lockdown so that they don't have to make that decision for a start.

It's not fair. Making people choose between unemployment and being "thick and selfish"?

That is what the gov is doing.

Financial aid needs to be put in place somehow- otherwise all this social distancing, self isolating or whatever is utterly pointless.

There is a post on MN somewhere, where someone described how dinner ladies are hiding the fact they've got a cough and coming to work. They can't manage on SSP.

I know a barmen who is going in today with a temp- his boss in an arse who will just not give him anymore hours if he doesn't go in when asked.

Sadly people don’t seem to have much common sense and think things through.

My sister sends her kids to a private academically selective school. So rich and clever you think? This morning the drop off gate was absolutely heaving with parents chatting away. They wouldn’t usually be there, but of course they are WFH now so have seized the opportunity to take the kids to school and catch up. Apparently there was multiple dads wrestling with screaming toddlers not used to doing it. For a few kids both parents turned up seemingly excited to have the chance to do drop off and hung around chatting.

A large social group that would have never happened normally. I guess it’s like the people who take their kids out of school now and then go out with them or get fed up too early and send them out at the peak. Everything has unintended consequences because people just don’t seem to be able to think.

This pandemic is going to destroy businesses, inter alia. I think going to work if you suspect you have corona is selfish and dangerous. I understand that many people in the UK expect the government's job is to immediately solve all problems. That is unrealistic, especially considering that this is a global pandemic whose impact continues to evolve

No I don't think people are taking this seriously. Kids birthday parties are still on for this weekend in public venues. I'm going to look like the bad guy for not sending my child.

Gyms and exercise studios are till open.

We need clearly direction from the government.

Seeing how people are behaving has sped up my decisions.

What do you mean marsha?

This is more to the party / school chatting behaviour rather than the must work to eat can’t wfh. The latter I want to hear the state aid that will help.

London is still exactly the same this morning as it usually - it was actually more packed and more shopping , and with all schools/ nurseries open I wouldn't expect much different

Nope.

Mainly because the guidelines are shocking. Stay away from people but go to work. Avoid mass gatherings but send your kids to school. Don't go to the pub or theatre but we won't force them to close...

I think they're trying to ease us into lockdown, but I don't think it will be particularly effective until businesses and schools are forced to close.

Purple seeing chat about parties, gathering, gym etc (not the no choice people) makes me think the height if the peak is going to be faster and soon. So I’ve taken the dc out of school.

One can hope the govt is modelling on people’s non compliance but I can’t bank on it.

Personally I will be but then group chats and conversations with certain peers I can tell you now this is not the case. People are trying to carry on as normal and when certain groups are cancelled they are making their own! Ffs.

No - good example are that plenty of clubs scouts, English Rugby and others have decided to cancel training.

Plenty of kids and adulst clubs - drama, swimming and cricket for example believe their clubs are ESSENTIAL social contact so have not closed. These clubs mix people from many different places and schools and mix people who wouldn't normally mix

No
Lots of people on here having baby showers, parties, weddings and visiting elderly family.

No, I don’t think people will comply for many different reasons, and actually I want the government to force closures because then businesses can claim on their insurance and they may stand a chance of not going out of business.

It’s easy enough to say self isolate when you’re comfortably off and in secure employment, if you’re living hand to mouth and won’t get paid off you don’t turn up it takes a lot of strength to self isolate for 14 days because someone in your household has a cough or temperature, especially at a time of year when many people often have the common cold.

If people don’t comply they’ll force shut cafes restaurants etc. This is actually a good thing as at least the business insurance would then at least cover them and make it slightly more likely for the business to survive.......

It's the economy, stupid!

This really is a farce.

Lockdown is expensive. That's why we're not doing it.

All this other stuff is pointless. The gov just needed to give out some advice, any advice, so they look like they're doing something.

Bovary, don't tell me that low paid staff should sacrifice their jobs and rent/mortgage payments but the gov shouldn't be expected to lead on this.

This is literally the kind of thing that governments are for.

In some ways it's making it very easy to identify the entitled, the selfish and the stupid.

Perhaps one of the only times in modern society we'll see Darwinism in action.

I don't think so - looking at the posts on here, people seem to consider meeting up with friends and going to get their nails done "essential".

Even for those who still need to go to work, it should be about limiting additional risk and avoiding socialising outside of work. The more people you meet and the more places you visit, the more chances you take to catch or spread the virus.

I've checked my gym's online booking and there are still lots of classes that are full with long waiting lists. I will really miss it, but I'm not going (they'll still be getting my monthly fee).

I'm torn between wanting to support local shops so that they don't go out of business, and staying away.

You only need to look at the gym thread to see how self centred people are. It's all about them and their health.

A lot of people are going to be personally affected by this but until they are and it hits home, they will carry on being selfish twats.