Children die???

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The WHO apparently said today that children have died of coronavirus (according to a BBC summary of the WHO press conference).

Until now, it's been said that there has been only one child death, sad though that obviously is, in the 10-19 years old range. Zero deaths in the 0-9 range.

So where did this statement come from? I have seen no figures to back it up - the figures from China, and Italy contradict it completely.

Where did this statement come from?
Has it been misquoted, in fact?
If it's true, what is actually going on?

Yes your right it’s the government not so much the people.

I was really unimpressed by that WHO Dr yesterday. I thought he was not clear and absolutely factual in what he said. That error that has had to be clarified is dreadful! It will have exacerbated the fear of millions.

Scroll to 43 mins - they ask a question about what they know about children so far

children don't get it is a lie, its do people will keep sending their children to school so lots of other people can work, pregnant teachers are being forced to work too, and it transmits, its shameful

The WHO have since clarified that one teenager has died, which was already known from the big Chinese study - he worded it very badly IMO.

When Coronavirus outbreak in China, all schools across China already closed for the China New Year holiday...that might helped...

Children contract it - TRUE
Children have been shown to contract it the least - TRUE
(but only because they show the least symptoms which means they've been the least tested group)
Children don't die from it - TRUE (so far 0 children have died)

Should children be isolated? Only if their primary carer is in the vulnerable group.

correction: isolated if they or their primary carer is in the vulnerable group

@Alialialiali
So the WHO in the video link are lying when they state that ‘we have seen children die from this’
Can you link where you’re getting your facts from please?

There is a Chinese case study about an 8 year old boy who seems to be in the ‘maintenance’ phase for Leukaemia. The US based doctor who has posted on twitter about it is legit (specialises in infections in paediatric cancer patients) but the translation might not be accurate and no one seems to know if the boy has survived or not! He’s clearly been gravely ill.

So did this horror start because of that fucking market with all the live animals etc?

Children do get sick and die from it, just as children get sick and die from regular flu.

But the likelihood of a child dying is tiny compared to someone in an at-risk category - so far, anyway.

children don't get it is a lie, its do people will keep sending their children to school so lots of other people can work, pregnant teachers are being forced to work too, and it transmits, its shameful

To be honest, not sure where the line 'children dont get it', has come from.

Everything i have seen says children DO get it. However, they are more likely to have little to no symptoms. And far more likely to not have complications (unless they have under lying health problems, in which case they are vulnerable).

As far as I was aware, kids will get it, kids will get sick but have a much better chance of it being mild, assuming they have dint have underlying conditions.

I assume someone, somewhere offcial has said this. Because people keep saying kids cant get it. But I havent seen where that's actually ever been officially said.

It might’ve started before the wet market cluster.

‘Patient 1’ is yet to be declared.

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2003717

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2003717

So did this horror start because of that fucking market with all the live animals etc?
They don't know who patient zero is or how they contracted it yet. It's all just theories at the moment.

God, fuck me. I just sent my asthmatic son to school as instructed.

There have been 173,000 known cases globally so far.

If only one child has died so far that we know of, then I think it's safe to say that children are not at any great risk overall. If your child is in a high risk category then you should do whatever you think is necessary to keep them as safe as possible.

Everyone else should try not to get hysterical about it. We have enough on our plate worrying about the people who are at serious risk, without worrying about the people who aren't.

If you don't worry every time you put your child in the car that they might die in a crash then you shouldn't worry unduly about this either.

God, fuck me. I just sent my asthmatic son to school as instructed.

Which instructions?

That's the issue. It's just not clear enough

It's quite clear that anyone with an underlying health conditions is high risk, obviously this includes children too.

6 children were definitely diagnosed with it in Wuhan between 7th and 15th of Jan, because they appear in this retrospective study:

The median age of the six patients was 3 years (range, 1 to 7) (Table 1). All six children had previously been completely healthy. Common clinical characteristics included high fever (>39°C) (in all six patients), cough (in all six), and vomiting (in four). Laboratory investigations showed that the levels of lymphocytes, white cells, and neutrophils were below the normal range in six, four, and three patients, respectively. Four of the six patients had pneumonia, as assessed radiographically, with computed tomographic scans of the chest showing typical viral pneumonia patterns (Fig. S3). One child was admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit (ICU) and received pooled immune globulin from healthy donors. All the patients were treated empirically with antiviral agents, antibiotic agents, and supportive therapies. All the patients recovered after hospitalization for a median of 7.5 days (range, 5 to 13).

No deaths amongst the 6, but they were all able to access proper treatment. That’s how we need to keep it!

www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2003717

@TK1930
Can you link where you’re getting your facts from please?

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
0-9 No fatalities
10-19 - 0.2%
Let's not freak out everytime someone phrases the same statistic in different ways.
She also said they are seeing no cross infection in schools - which is stupid and hence the woman herself is an idiot. WHO are just advisors, they are not decision makers.

children don't get it is a lie,

But nobody has ever said that children don't get it. I have never yet read, on any news sites that children don't catch it.

In fact we have heard they do catch it but are often symptomless or have only mild symptoms, but can carry it and pass it on. Which is why some teachers are worried. It is why some parents are worried. If children don't look or feel ill they go to school but they can pass it between themselves and to the adults around them. And under 10s are already known to be super spreaders with normal germs due to their lower hygiene.

They've said that fortunately children appear to be less likely to be really poorly with it and that under 10s haven't had any fatalities at this time

God, fuck me. I just sent my asthmatic son to school as instructed.

You're well within your rights to keep your child at home if you want to. Nobody has said that you have to send your DC to school - just that schools will remain open - that's a very different thing.

If it makes you feel better, please go and get your son and keep him at home

Trouble is that worldometers site hasn't been updated for so long. Things have moved on in terms of cases. There doesn't seem to be more up to date figures in the same way.

@Aragog
children don't get it is a lie,
No official has ever said this. Children do get it, they develop the least symptoms and no child under 10 has died yet