Does anyone think Boris is right?

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I'm not saying I do. But I'm curious to see if anyone agrees with the strategy they're going for as most of what I'm reading is against.

No

Yes

I really hope so and it makes some sense to me.
Good ideas to socially isolate the over 70s to protect them.
Panic buying will settle down soon.
Children still in school is good in my opinion.

No.

Nope,

Biggest and most dangerous experiment ever undertaken.

No

Well it's it's not Boris it's UK government policy. But NO I don't it's insanity. China has just 12000 active cases now down from a peak of 60000 cases. And the number is coming down every day. Other countries in Asia are also having joy with lockdown accompanied with rigorous testing. Stay indoors except for essential grocery runs and we stand a chance.

Yes, it's based on info from the experts and if the left wingers on here could temper their hysterical hatred of him for just a moment, they might also agree but of course that won't happen.

I can't help but wonder if they know the NHS is SO unprepared that they've decided they might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb? So they do want to flatten the curve a bit to reduce death rates, but don't see any point in doing it more to drag things out for longer like other countries, because there are going to be terrible scenes of swamped hospitals, bodies etc anyway and people will have no chance of getting beds and be dying at home, regardless. Whereas all us scared individuals are still naively hoping that if we slow it down as much as humanly possible there might be more chance of some kind of bed for everyone who needs it, even if it's in a corridor or requisitioned building. Perhaps they know that's futile.

No and I hate him for it

No

I can't stand the man but yes overall, I do

I think isolating the vulnerable (over 70's etc) whilst allowing the rest of us to carry on keeping the country running is the best option at present

It is really quite simple - the same amount of people will contract the virus, the area under the curves are the same in both models. The government plan is to flatten the curve so less elderly and weak people die. What is so difficult to accept?

@SilverySurfer Have you missed the 200 scientists who have just written to the Government to say they are wrong? Or that WHO experts say the UK is wrong? Or that every other government apart from us is doing the exact opposite?
And I have voted conservative in the past. I am a classic floating voter. Because I read policies and look at candidates rather than just blindly following a particular party or leader. So no need for the lefty jibes.

Not just him. But yes the people advising have a good mix of experience and expertise on this.

Yes I do because I haven't heard any better suggestions. Lockdown the country... except of course for all NHS staff, all payroll staff, all benefits staff, all Police, all utility service workers, all supermarket staff and suppliers etc. etc. etc. How does the country run without any of these people at work? And every single other job, jobs that are not essential to survival, they just shut down and expect to still be there when lockdown ends? Which will be when? A month? Two? Twelve? Only to discover that the second you break lockdown the virus starts up all over again and we're right back where we are now. And if we let that happen in Winter we also get to batter Norovirus and Winter flu at the same time whilst having a completely ruined economy so even less strength to battle it than we have now. And people saying that it's what's working in other countries we have no idea that it's working because of course if you stop people making contact with other people the spread will slow down but all logic says that the second that stops, the spread will speed back up so then what?
What exactly do those of you that are so anti the governments plan want to happen that you think will work? It's a genuine question. I'm not a fan of Boris or the Torries in general but I think they're doing the best they can with the scientific advisors they have.

@user1471439240 Yes that is what they say. Although every other government is trying to eradicate the virus and some countries are succeeding. Look at Taiwan. But that apparently is just too hard for the UK government. So we are just giving up and accepting half a million will die.

Yes

A snap shot of my friends suggests that we would all like to get the virus while our vulnerable relatives isolate then we can ensure that they can continue to isolate until vaccination is developed. We may not retain immunity but at least it buys time.
The pressure of mass hysteria and the potential for civil unrest appears to have driven the response in other countries. No country has a health service that has a capacity for the number of critical/serious cases envisaged with this virus. Containment is a bit like trying to stop the tide coming in. We are well past the containment phase both as a country and globally. The WHO are like headless chickens because their remit is global and at present the numbers are still too small for them to predict global outcome. We have some of the best scientists in the world who have been predicting and planning for such a shit storm for decades. They may get it wrong but the outcomes will be the same whichever route we take, but they have been modelling specifically for our country and society.

It's not from Boris. At the conference he passed every question back to the experts as he should have done. If you trust the two experts that who were standing with him, then, yes, he is right.

@WoodlandWalks All the government needs to do is follow WHO advice. It has worked in other countries. Countries like Taiwan are eradicating it. But it is hard and it takes strong leadership and good political decisions. Boris just finds all this too hard to do though. So shrug, half a million people will die here.

If we're going to copy any country's education system it would be Finland but we'll save that for another day.

I thought we were talking about short-term emergency classroom teaching - classes of 50/60 in a pandemic situation if necessary - not 50 years of educational reform aka Finland.

Taiwan took action before it even hit. So when we were going through Brexit mess we’d have to have put in similar with no reason for the threat.

Putting it lightly I’m not a fan of Boris but I think his actually just been honest. Looking at what’s happening elsewhere in the world it’s clear no one really knows what to do. We can go into lock down now but when will that end? The reality is there is no medication at this moment in time that cures it and medical staff and scientists are fighting an uphill race to help people. It’s not a nice message to hear but the truth is people will die from this. Everyone needs to take precautions with their own families to limit the devastation where they can but until they know exactly how it spreads, mutates and what the long term consequences are it’s all a guessing game

Yes, it's based on info from the experts and if the left wingers on here could temper their hysterical hatred of him for just a moment, they might also agree but of course that won't happen.

This. Deciding that a policy is wrong, and even evil, because you have a pathological hatred of the person who has announced it, is batshit.

This is a global pandemic, no one can stop it and people are going to get ill and die. There is no way of avoiding this, and it does make sense to reduce the overall burden by allowing that to happen to those of us who are the strongest and best able to survive it, and to let this happen during the spring and summer months rather than wait until the winter.