People don’t realize young and health will also die

[Firespider]

Hi, I am Chinese and have been in the UK for 10 years. I have read through lots of the threads here and been surprised that people think only old and vulnerable will die from Covid-19. Truth is 15% will need oxygen, 5% will need ventilation. Many of them are young. If no treatment is provided large part of these patient will die. That’s what happened in Wuhan and is happening in Italy. The reason we only see death of old patients I the UK now is because the average course from symptoms onsite to death is 17 days. Young patient will stick longer. Mild cases range from slightly cough to pneumonia! The word pneumonia itself is serious enough. I am very worried about the government’s action.

I want to know how many children have died of this because i believe there has to be a cover up of its saying 0.2%then why have we only heard of one 10yo that has died?

Also what about children that are immunosuppressive, they stand same chance of death as the elderely which is really harrowing

Of course it’s scaremongering. It’s an awful thing to do, especially on MN where people have whipped themselves into a frenzy.

The “facts” OP has posted aren’t matched by the reported numbers.

But are the numbers being covered up

They are from the World Health Organisation report on Coronavirus.

How much more expert do you want to get in terms of factual information?

It’s worldometer.

It compiles statistics from all the countries it’s free to look at.

OP is saying that lots of younger people are dying - it's not true age increases risk by a ratio of 1.14 per year of age, and her assertion is not supported by The WHO report which simply reports overall percentages.

I'm 'helping' by linking to peer reviewed medical evidence and challenging hysterical and unfounded rumours which don't help anyone.

If you find me asking two rather basic questions 'hostile' then I'd suggest that the inevitable challenges to needlessly scaremongering threads are probably going to be a bit robust for your tastes

The OP said young people are more affected than is being reported. How do those WHO figures back that up?

Yes people under 50 are low risk.

@Ofthread
Please link the evidence that shows that young healthy people with no comorbidities have an increased risk of mortality as the OP suggests. I'd like odds ratios and confidence intervals please.

I accept this disease kills and although the elderly and those with underlying health conditions are more at risk, this doesnt mean younger adults cant die. Some will.

But I'm an HCP who works very acutely. If I really stop and think about it takes my breath away but I can't hide away from it. I am already looking after covid patients. I have to be able to function and not be paralysed with fear. My DH has some lung pathology and when I stop and ponder it, it takes my breath away. So I'm choosing not to ponder on it. I'm not naive but hopeful.

This probably will be fucking awful and yet knowing that makes no impact so I'll just keep going.

The WHO figures of morbidity are just going by known cases / known deaths. That’s not accurate as far, far more people will have it who haven’t been tested. Therefore the figure will be way lower than 3%.

So @Purplewhitelie you've linked the statistics. On many threads. I've read them. Now what? How much better off does that make me? Or you for posting them?

And?

@Redinthefacegirl
Thank you for doing all you can.

I agree - there will be some deaths outside of the major risk factors. But like you I'm not sure that we can do anything specifically about that and so carrying on and taking sensible precautions as you are is more helpful than threads like this

I want to know how many children have died of this because i believe there has to be a cover up of its saying 0.2%then why have we only heard of one 10yo that has died?

The 0.2% represents the probability of dying if you contract the virus in the 10-19 age group. It’s not the percentage of total deaths who were aged between 10 and 19 years old.

Basically it says that based on the data so far, 2 out of every 1000 10-19 year olds who contract the virus have passed away. Info here: Worldometer

Note that the stats for older age groups are very sobering.

But people are assuming we're not taking it seriously and doing all in our power to stop what we can. Taking very seriously here.

@Ofthread

What I don't understand is how you think threads like this are remotely helpful or constructive
To ask you your own question 'what are you doing to help'?
Because I genuinely don't see how threads like this aim to achieve anything except ramping up anxiety

Tobee because I’m working with people who literally do not have a clue so not even washing their hands more let alone social distancing.

Old sick people die faster and young, previously healthy, people die much more slowly.

Like any illness, really.

We'll know more soon.