AIBU to go for a run if I am self isolating?

[narisha99]

Am expecting to be shot down in flames here, but bear with me....

Self isolation advice is to stay at home for a week and not even go out for a walk. I totally get why public places should be avoided etc, but given the risk of airbourne transmission is being with 2-3ft of someone for 15 mins this wouldn't happen if I went for a run or a walk. It would be very easy for me to go for a walk in a rural area / woods etc where I would be unlikely to see many people, and I certainly wouldn't be getting close to them.

On the upside, the FTSE might rally on the sales of welding kits at this rate.

I wouldn't, simply because I need to spit quite frequently when I run (and sometimes vomit on a long run). It wouldn't be far to leave piles of toxic gunk everywhere

That's really grim at the best of times. You don't need to spit, ever, and if you are vomiting you are running too hard. Yuck.

But that IS the advice. Self isolate for 7 days from the start of symptoms. After the 7 days, you can cease isolation. What's so hard to understand about it?

Actually the advice is to stay away from other people for 7 days OR until your symptoms are gone so NOT 7 days from start of symptoms. So it would appear you have misunderstood it!

BothALarkAndAnOwl I hadn't realised you were quoting someone else. My mistake!

I can't believe some of the nonsense on here. I wouldn't usually be concerned about something like this however this virus could kill my DH. Therefore to hear of people in self isolation planning to take there dogs out or go for a run astounds me. What if you happen to run into me, what if I get sick and pass it onto my DH who isn't aware as incubation is 14 days and he has taken it with him into hospital everyday. Please don't be so selfish

That's really grim at the best of times. You don't need to spit, ever, and if you are vomiting you are running too hard. Yuck.

That is genuinely amusing.

How depressing this thread is. I didn't realise that quite so many stupid, selfish people posted on AIBU.

I think it should be safe to run if you run with the wind behind you?
(Or should you run against the wind?)

People are under that impression because that is precisely what was said by the experts at the press conference yesterday. After 7 days you are no longer as infectious, even if still symptomatic, so it is fine to come out of isolation

As above see 111 website which says you need to self-isolate for 7 days OR until symptoms are gone.

Some people will not be able to self isolate. Animals need to be looked after, food needs to be bought and medicine may be required.

Take reasonable steps like running late/early and in quiet areas.

The government clearly says if you are self isolating DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE!

That is genuinely amusing

It wasn't meant to be. Spitting is massively disgusting and totally unnecessary.

And if you vomit when you run - don't run as hard! I occasionally feel a bit sick at the end of a hard run but if I started vomiting I would be sensible enough to hold back a bit the next time.

Avoid busy places, maintain the social 2m distance if you do see anyone.

The government clearly says if you are self isolating DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOUSE

But if you need medication you might actually need to. Not everyone can ask family and friends, I guess that's one reason people are stockpiling Calpol so they don't have to go out.

That's really grim at the best of times. You don't need to spit, ever, and if you are vomiting you are running too hard. Yuck
Sometimes there is a need to spit. It's gross but preferable to choking on a bug you've inhaled (yes I've done that occasionally into a hedge when running rurally, yes it's grim, no I'm not swallowing a bug to avoid offending empty fields).

I agree on the vomiting front though. There's merits to training hard but anyone who goes out and deliberately pushes themselves to the point of vomiting needs to reflect on their actions in my opinion. Fair enough if it's a long run in summer and someone feels a bit woozy, so eases off but still vomits a little whilst recovering because these things can happen (very rarely if training responsibly), but most runners know when they're hitting different limits and no PB is worth leaving piles of puke on the path/road/verge. It's disgusting.

Ending self-isolation
You should remain at home until 7 days after the onset of your symptoms. After 7 days, if you feel better and no longer have a high temperature, you can return to your normal routine. If you have not had any signs of improvement and have not already sought medical advice, you should contact NHS 111 online at 111.nhs.uk. If you have no internet access, you should call NHS 111.
Cough may persist for several weeks in some people, despite the coronavirus infection having cleared. A persistent cough alone does not mean you must continue to self-isolate for more than 7 days.

This is from the actual Government advice leaflet @MintySpud

My 7 year old son is self isolating according to public health England I can go out he however cannot we need gas for the meter ive asked for help no one will help so if it comes down to it I will have to drive us leave him and my 11 year old in the car and go to the shop to buy it

what the fuck else am I supposed to do

I suppose you see football players spit and wrinkle your prissy nose, thinking them uncouth.

I occasionally vomit if my electrolyte imbalance gets off. It happens to distance runners from time to time. I don't really care if natural human functions upset you, tbh.

Fucking hell. Over the last 15 years I have run with many people from quite a few different clubs, both over longish distances and speed work, and I have NEVER known anyone to vomit other than during the late stages of a marathon.

Well there is clearly conflicting advice doing the rounds so perhaps it is understandable that people are confused.

I occasionally vomit if my electrolyte imbalance gets off. It happens to distance runners from time to time. I don't really care if natural human functions upset you, tbh

It's not a natural human function to push yourself to the point of vomiting in the road/path any more than it's a natural human function to drink so much alcohol you puke in the street. The vomiting is a natural human reaction, it doesn't mean it's reasonable to do things knowing they're likely to leave a pile of puke for someone else to deal with.

I also run long distance btw.

Actually @mement0mori I haven't misunderstood. This is a screenshot taken from the NHS 111 website today. But yes, looks like there is some conflicting information.

*Well there is clearly conflicting advice8

There is not conflicting advice. There are conflicting opinions. The government advice should be the one followed.

I spoke the risk is if you for some reason require assistance from people/paramedics and end up putting them at risk

Re vomiting during runs
This is likely due to splanchnic hypoperfusion
journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpgi.00066.2012
'Strenuous physical performance increases the blood supply to active muscles, cardiopulmonary system, and skin to meet the altered demands for oxygen and nutrients. The redistribution of blood flow, necessary for such an increased blood supply to the periphery, significantly reduces blood flow to the gut, leading to hypoperfusion and gastrointestinal (GI) compromise. A compromised GI system can have a negative impact on exercise performance and subsequent postexercise recovery due to abdominal distress and impairments in the uptake of fluid, electrolytes, and nutrients. In addition, strenuous physical exercise leads to loss of epithelial integrity, which may give rise to increased intestinal permeability with bacterial translocation and inflammation'

@LolaSmiles
It's not a natural human function to push yourself to the point of vomiting in the road/path any more than it's a natural human function to drink so much alcohol you puke in the street. The vomiting is a natural human reaction, it doesn't mean it's reasonable to do things knowing they're likely to leave a pile of puke for someone else to deal with

I completely agree with you. I'm also a distance runner and can honestly say if I was pushing myself to the point I was leaving piles of vomit in public, well I wouldn't push myself as hard. It's disgusting.

I don't really care if natural human functions upset you, tbh

Thankfully most people in the running community I've met are considerate to others, sadly there's always the odd selfish person like you who ruins it for the rest of them.

Natural human functions don't upset me generally, however if I'm out for a run or out with my kids, I don't want to have to look at or even encounter your vomit. It's why I also pick up my dog's poo. Sure it's a normal function but it's unpleasant for other people. I suppose you just leave your vomit where it is and carry on with your day, not giving a shit?