To hope Boris makes the right decision.

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I know there are mixed ideas about what should happen. I completely get people who work being worried and anxious about how they're going to manage and pay the bills etc. but if it is getting to a point where loads of elderly people are going to die and loads of families are going to be affected then Boris surely needs to be acting soon rather than later. I've been watching sky news all afternoon and everybody that goes on to talk about this situation seems to be suggesting that they don't think the schools will close yet. I know we might find out later that he will close the schools but I'm guessing it's not going to happen.

I feel like they should just put some sensible things into place. For example exams should be allowed to be taken at a later date this year. Universities etc should allow the students to start slightly later this year. vouchers could be printed off for poor families so they can still provide a meal for their children if they are not going to school anymore. schools nurseries etc should be closed and deep cleaned as children are the worst for spreading germs. We all know that kids can spread norovirus and colds and flu throughout the winter. before I had children I was never ill and now I get at least 6 colds a year because of the kids.

also the schools are only sending out the link to the government website with the latest how to wash your hands etc. But they're not actually advising parents who might need to isolate their children due to medical issues. It's just kind of like business as usual. the problem is many people will have relatives with cancer and lung problems and many children have asthma. I'm a little bit concerned that the school have not said if you feel there's a reason you want to self isolate your children to please contact us and we'll discuss it further. it's doable for children to stay home for a couple of weeks before Easter. they can have maths sheets sent home and websites with learning on, they can have an extra couple of reading books in their bags. Do drawing etc. They can encourage parents to read to younger children and do basic sums and alphabet with the infant children. Older children are able to go online or read Books on their own.

NHS staff and police paramedics etc could be provided childcare in a special hall or something run by a couple of volunteers or some teachers that are willing to run a childcare club.as long as all the children are ok and not showing signs of coronavirus and paps are even tested then we will know safe for that to happen.

I guess we will have to see I think Ireland have done the right thing and at the moment I wish I lived there because I think they're tackling it a lot better than Boris is right now.

Closing schools (or the country) is a very quick response but a very unrealistic and hopefully last attempt scenario. It just isnt realistic and you options prove that. Yes close the school but stick all the kids in a sports hall. How is that better. The truth is the kids are the ones least likely to catch it, the people most likely? Their grandparents. Who are also most likely going to be needed for childcare when the schools close (which is exactly what was said on tbe news today as a reason not to close them down). Self employed people wont get wages, not everyone can survive on SSP, closing tbe place down will actually still cause death and other devastating consequences. We will end up in a recession. Esp if financial businesses also close. Other illnesses both physically and mentally will get put on the back burner. Where is the food coming from in exchange for the vouchers? Closure of schools, or/and the country, should always be the last resort, not the first choice.

FudgeBrownie2019 rofl

But they're not actually advising parents who might need to isolate their children due to medical issues.

Not their job- they are a school

they can have maths sheets sent home
Who will copy them and distribute?

websites with learning on
Very middle class- what about the many with no internet access?

A couple of volunteers in a hall? What about DBS checks, pupil to adult ratios? Things like this need a lot of planning, it's nowhere near as simple as it sounds, contingency plans should have been in place.

Boris will make the decision which puts Boris in the best light, as always

Bizarre thinking; that gathering crowds of children in school halls for childminding is better than children in classrooms, learning.

Your post is a good example of people not understanding the complexity of the economic and social ramifications of a shutdown.

It's not just about people being late in paying some bills. If you shut the country down, economic activity grinds to a halt. If economic activity drops, businesses see their revenues decline. Many businesses will have to respond by cutting costs and invariable that will mean cutting jobs. Many businesses will go bust regardless of what they do to try and mitigate the damage. The economic carnage that entails is not something easily recovered from. Worst case scenario is a full-blown depression and unemployment figures that we have not seen for generations.

A lot of people also seem to think that it's the rich that will suffer if global wealth takes a hit. The wealthy will indeed lose vast sums but they will still be wealthy. It is the less well off that will suffer by far the harshest consequences - poverty, homelessness, unemployment etc etc.

There are no easy answers but the actual experts have to be given the floor rather than be drowned out by the hordes of panic-stricken Chicken Little's that have gone into full stampede.

The entitlement pisses me off
I kind of agree that yes schools could do with shutting

But not so your children can be safe at home with mum
While mine are shoved in a hall while I have to go to work for the NHS.

Have a word with yourself

Not brought loads of bog rolls nope.

Volunteers like members of the pta. People who go onto schools to do reading.

Did not mean stick all the kids in a hall. I said it could be an option for a club for children who's parents must work. It would still reduce the risk with a majority of kids being home etc.

Who would give out sheets. The staff I presume could give it to the kids tomorrow. They have websites on the school website where kids can learn.

Well aware people get stabbed and that's a totally different issue. Crime and viruses can not be compared.

We need to care less about ourselves and more about vunerable people and allowing our elderly who have survived wars etc to die. If we need to struggle for a couple of weeks then so be it. If we carry on mixing the NHS won't be able to cope!

Softplay etc all needs closing too. People need to stay home or go out in the fresh air away from people. People with colds and coughs etc need to stay in and self isolate.

We will see what he says

Also if the title of a link pisses you off. You dont need to do a dramatic click and claim I've shit allover your afternoon. You clicked on it through choice and read it. Just scroll on. Debates on here are not just what you feel is ok to talk about.

It needs taking seriously. Simple.

@Carrotcakeforbreakfast a club for your children! Or you could care for them yourself seeming how it's a huge problem for the whole country!

I think schools should close and provide a class per school for children of emergency or essentials workers as decided by the government.

@oohnicevase
also I've booked an amazing holiday for afterwards so she can kick back and enjoy her summer !
Gosh yes you are spot on, your daughters amazing holiday is far more important than elderly and immune compromised peoples lives.

Who would give out sheets. The staff I presume could give it to the kids tomorrow.

730 primary age children here- that is just not realistic.
Time to copy them? paper supplies? ink availability? staff time?

I think schools should close and provide a class per school for children of emergency or essentials workers as decided by the government.

And who will staff that?
Caretaker, office staff, head, teachers, TAs, such suppliers, cleaners etc etc

@MyDcAreMarvel

That's what I thought. This is serious enough to be allover the news and parts of the world in full lockdown. People have died due to this virus finishing them off on top of a other illness. But yeah let's not try and stop it spreading because of holidays and exams. Exams can be marked and taken at a later date. This can all be out in place. It's hard at routine and a date on a calender. Can't bring people back from the dead though.

Yes, really the end of days, someone is stabbed in the capital every single day

They have websites on the school website where kids can learn

And in the real world how will they get internet access? Go to a closed library?

NHS staff and police paramedics etc could be provided childcare in a special hall or something run by a couple of volunteers or some teachers that are willing to run a childcare club.as long as all the children are ok and not showing signs of coronavirus and paps are even tested then we will know safe for that to happen

So, exactly like school then? Just in another building? Lol 😂

Also how the eff do you expect 2 volunteers to watch HUNDREDS of kids? Are YOU volunteering to do that? No? Then stfu

It's just a routine!

If most kids are low risk isn’t it better that the schools say open? At least the kids are there together, not out at soft play, mixing with more of the public etc by being entertained. Or needing to be cared for by potentially vulnerable elderly relatives so their parents can work.

Presumably if the schools close, we'd cope the same as Ireland, Italy, and the many other Western countries that have closed schools. It's not insurmountable and it's nonsensical to ask a MNer to make suggestions so you can shout them down.

Boris/Cummings will protect capitalism at all costs and will also be quite happy to be shot of the elderly who take up bed spaces and are a drain on society. The Tories are a bunch of self serving cunts who dont give a shit about anyone except the wealthy. They want the NHS to fail and what way than this. Eugenics at work here.

Schools should close but provision made for children of NHS staff. Im a teacher and would be more than happy to cover that.

If most kids are low risk isn’t it better that the schools say open? At least the kids are there together, not out at soft play, mixing with more of the public etc

Errrm, how do you think the kids get to school? Most secondary school children I know get on buses with old people and everyone else.

The schools need to close. Maybe primary schools could stay open for a couple more weeks for those that need it, while the parents find childcare.

Nicola Sturgeon gave a fairly eloquent justification for the decision not to close schools yet at a press conference earlier today.

It's clear that Boris is being guided by the expert advice on this, and the Scottish government is following the same advice.

Boris won't make the right decision. When has he made the right decision in the past?