How can the UK gov or anyone read this and not put the UK on lockdown?

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The NHS won't. and shouldn't have to, cope with this...

Travel should have been stopped. Borders closed. People put in to lockdown.

ICU Doctor from Italy on current situation

Shutting down the schools
Could somebody explain how this would work

I'm not sure what you mean. The schools are shut. Children are at home.

@youkiddingme

Take a look at these;

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Of the closed cases, by either death or recovery world wide the death rate is 6 per cent. The figures of 3% are based on still active cases. After 28 days people are dying, median time (other link I posted).

www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

More in-depth on percentages of death in different age groups and with different health conditions. The percentage here is the chance of dying, not total people. This is based on data from a study from 17th Feb in China based on 72k infected, roughly 20k of those cases are still ongoing as of today.

I do think working from home if you can, avoiding unnecessary travel, large gatherings, keeping distance from others when out and about, hand washing etc Every little helps and if everyone did their own small bit to take sensible precautions.... I read so many posts on here though that people are making a fuss about nothing....

It’s a bit of a tangent, but we have just been watching a programme about how many people drive without a licence and/or insurance and/or when banned - so if there are people who won’t follow those rules, what does this suggest about all people complying with any lockdown. Before even thinking through the logistics of working out what’s essential and keeping that up and running.

*Scientists have now made it clear that the government is prioritising economy over people’s lives.

We need a lock down now or we become a thoroughly ungodly species who chuck our weak on the fire. Literally. Because what else are we going to do with that many bodies.

PULL YOUR FINGER OUT GOVERNMENT.
PEOPLE TAKE THEIR CUES FROM YOU.
YOU ARE SIGNING THEIR FUCKING DEATH WARRANTS!*

What scientists what death warrants, you might want to panic most don't, some posters in here are scary with there rhetoric. I think some want us all to die.

How ridiculous that we are letting in lots of people from Italy!!

Just a bit more on interview with Rory Stewart, Shelagh Fogerty asked him how would NHS workers manage if schools closed down. His reply was the government must be generous so all I could I think of is perhaps payments to NHS workers to pay for childcare? Is it feasible to find child minders late notice?

RS - and I am not saying he is right, just interesting to hear someone who worked in govt and has attended Cobra meetings in the past - that scientists can only present the figures for various scenarios. Leadership is required to decide on how to act on the information. His personal view is he would rather be accused in the future of having overreacted than not acting sooner and having a higher loss of life. .

So we close the schools, children are at home - who minds the kids while I’m at work? Id have to quit my job - then I’d have no money, would lose my house, we’d be homeless, no money for food...but hey at least we didn’t catch the virus 🦠😂

The numbers are freely available

I know, what isn't is the trajectory this virus is going to take and many other factors needed to form a reality based, long term mortality rate. Early mortality rates are often very misleading. Numbers may not lie, but statistics often do.

How will that work out for people who need to go to work to pay their monthly bills? If you don’t work you don’t get paid which will cause huge problems for a lot of people. The logistics of actually implementing and policing that kind of action would be virtually impossible and the result would far outweigh the benefit of doing it.

But where would they magic all the people to provide the extra childcare from? And if the children were put in childcare in groups in creches would that be any better than schools?

Just stop the hysteria ffs. I bet you have at least 100 loo rolls stashed in your home

HeresMe if you read Rory Stewart's twitter, you will find the justification for what I have said. I'm not making up random shit.

And I am not panicking either.
Just stating facts.

If you work it out for yourself.

Worst case scenario 80 per cent of people infected - 53.15 million.

3.6 percent death rate - 1.9 million.

5 per cent of the British work force off at one time (45 million) - 2.25 million. Although I think they are being very optimistic here if the other figures are correct.

20 per cent of total infected needed hospitals care - 10.63 million.

This is potentially within a three week period.

His reply was the government must be generous so all I could I think of is perhaps payments to NHS workers to pay for childcare?

Second funniest thing I've read on here today. This government does not give a flying fuck about NHS workers, if they did, they wouldn't have frozen pay and created the sort of staff shortages that have driven some of it's workers to suicide.

We won't be given help - just the usual - be told to cover for others who can't get in, look after infected people even if there are not the masks/ gel/ gloves to offer us even basic protection, take abuse from an entitled few who are all about me me me.

People dying from austerity is not the same as people dying from a reduced economy. If you slash health and social care budgets, of course some people will die. That was a political decision.
We are a rich country with very high employment. The economy having a dip will not kill people of managed correctly.

I'm not sure what you mean. The schools are shut. Children are at home.
Alone?
Supervised by their higher risk grandparents?
Making their parents give up work?
What if the parents are medics?
What will they eat if the parents are unable to earn ?

Just close the schools is utterly facile
and has exacerbated the problem in Italy.

If you work it out for yourself

.....It is highly unlikely to represent any long term accurate reflection of reality. So why would I bother?

and has exacerbated the problem in Italy.

How has it exacerbated the problem? I am in Italy. Everyone I know agrees with the schools being closed despite the difficulties.

There are critically ill young people in Italy and the US

What's meant by 'young people' here?

@todayisnottuesday, I don’t doubt that it is highly unlikely and most probably not a chance it would happen with this government. I was just trying to ponder what he had in mind by saying govt should I’d be generous when Shelagh Fogerty asked how would NHS staff who are parents manage if schools would close.

It's an epidemic/ pandemic, not countdown, so I'll leave it to the epidemiological experts to work out for my not Carol fucking Vorderman.

Everyone I know agrees with the schools being closed despite the difficulties.
Where are the children?
Are the home alone?

Where are the children?

I am at home with the children - as a mum of young children I have permission to work from home. Other people are getting help from relatives, family, other mums etc. It's not easy but needs must. This is our third week at home.