To have not done anything about the c virus?

[bingbangbing]

Despite a member of my household being in an at risk group?

We always washed our hands anyway.

We haven't bought hand sanitiser. We haven't started stockpiling. We're still going to work etc

I think the current coverage is irresponsible. It's mainly causing people with underlying anxiety issues to panic.

[bingbangbing]

Small, sensible, measured?

Really?

The levels of anxiety shown on here are not measured.

There are loads of things that kill vastly more people every single year. Much is avoidable.

The flu kills more people every year.

[Shandied]

@bingbangbing yes flu does at the moment, we have/had a chance to try and contain it and stop the spread so that it isn't an issue year after year. Is that not worth the effort or some measures being put in place?

[AlternativePerspective]

I think even if that is true (which I highly doubt) China isn’t exactly known for its position on human rights is it?

And really, why does anyone want to view that kind of thing on YouTube. In fact, why does anyone want to film that kind of thing and upload it for others to view.

I don’t actually think that PP should link to such hideous videos, and if they do I think the post should be reported and removed.

[bingbangbing]

Very sorry for your loss.

@GetawayfromthatWelshtart

[Bluebellbike]

I was hesitant about stockpiling for Brexit. Now gld I did. Its all still there and I stockpiled for 3. The other 2 moved out so only me here.

[Waxonwaxoff0]

@Kazzyhoward I am a single parent, I have to fit shopping and travel times around childcare. Not everyone has the luxury of plenty of free time to change their schedules around, it's unrealistic. I practice good hygiene anyway so I'm covered there but there's little else I can do.

[AnyOldSpartabix]

About 600 people die from flu in the UK each year.

Yes, and if a new strain of flu appeared that was likely to cause thousands more deaths than that, people would be concerned, just as many of us with at-risk relatives are concerned now.

It’s not worth panicking. It’s common sense to take reasonable precautions for unpredictable events, such as a disruption to food deliveries in the event of widespread illness of employees.

[Porcupineinwaiting]

The flu kills more people every year

Yes the flu kills people despite the fact that there is an annual vaccination programme for the most vulnerable.

More than what btw?

[GinDrinker00]

@Didntwanttochangemyname I have said the YouTube name. I’m not going to direct link as people will moan about it. You need to be signed into YouTube though or else you will not be able to find it.

[AlternativePerspective]

I think 20% of people who are diagnosed needing hospitalization and 6% critical of which many have died. but that is a global figure which needs to take into account the differing healthcare systems in different countries.

So far in the UK we’ve had one death, and the media have now confirmed that although she tested positive for Coronavirus, she didn’t die of coronavirus, she died of whatever other serious condition she had, and was already seriously ill in ICU, so there’s a higher than normal chance she would have died anyway even if she hadn’t had the virus.

I nearly died of flu 3.5 years ago. Spent time on life support, now have a serious heart condition and need a transplant in the future.

I have little doubt that should I catch Corona I may be hospitalised as a precaution which is what will happen in many cases. If you have breathing difficulties already then there’s a good chance you will need to go to hospital to make sure that those aren’t made worse by the virus, but that doesn’t necessarily equate to people “needing” hospitalisation because of the virus.

[sleepingpup]

The levels of anxiety shown on here are not measured.

yep @bingbangbing it's a couple of people on this thread.

Don't take it too seriously.

[bingbangbing]

@Porcupineinwaiting

The flu has killed more than corona already. I think it kills around 15,000 a year in the UK- but that varies.

Corona has killed 116 I think.

We do have a new strain of flu every year.

[DontCallMeDarling]

What!? I don't believe this for one second. Please provide a link to a source for this. Its exactly the sort of shit that is going to send someone with health anxiety over the top.

I agree there is so much fake news, videos that have nothing to do with covid are reposted and relabelled to scare people and get views/money for the poster. Look at that nonsense about the Dean Koontz book. I'm amazed at the profiteering going on.

[bingbangbing]

Actually no- it's 116 cases and one death.

My mistake!

[bumblingbovine49]

So what I should I do? Buy three hundred bottles of ineffective hand sanitiser? A hundred loo rolls?
Keep sniffling DS at home?
Tear my hair out?

Well there are some things in between this and ostrich, head in the sand ;' that you can do

Make suure you have enough stuff at home that if you are told to stay home suddenly, you can get by for a few days until you can organise a delivery or get someone to shop for you.

I am not talking about stcckpiling. I mean do you have paracetamol, ibuprofen , tissues, anything else you like to take when you are ill at home? Not tons, just enough for a couple of days . If you do then that is fine. If you use it, replace it so that you always have a pack in. I have always done this and if you have fine, but a lot of people don't

f you can't buy hand sanitiser then you can't and it is not a big deal but to say it is ineffective means you have no idea what you are talking about. I does work if it is at least 60% alcohol and can be useful if you are making a long journey when you might not have access to soap and water and you may want to eat etc. If that doesn't apply, you are fine without it

I'd als make sure I had a spray cleaner or two at home. I have historically used method cleaning stuff as I avoid too many chemicals at home. I have however bought a couple of cleaning sprays with min 0.5% bleach and /or 0.5% Hydrogen peroxide and the recent research shows these are probably the most effective at killing the new virus on surface. I'll save them for if anyone gets ill in the house but I know I have them in.
I see no tension between thinking about what might be useful to and doing it (within reason) and at the same time carrying on as you normally would until told otherwise.

[HarveySchlumpfenburger]

The flu kills more people every year.

you can’t validly compare the flu deaths in a year with the deaths of a novel virus which is still in it’s early stages.

[T0tallyFuckedUpFamily]

I’ve always had a large larder of none perishable foods, one and a half freezers and grow spinach and herbs in the house. It comes from growing up in a very rural community. My mother would have travelled into the big smoke and bought trays of tinned foods, etc, so it was a standard way of life and cane in very handy during the hungry months, when nothing grows.

I had got away from it, because I moved so close to the city, but started again, when my husband took ill. It came in so handy when nursing him through the worst and looking after my children, after losing him. Since that I’ve had two operations and two injuries which have impacted, temporarily, on my mobility. I didn’t have to add shopping to keeping business going, though I hired temporary staff, and looking after my SN child.

perfect storm of both, even if it's not due to people buying it up the result is the same. If you use it even occasionally it's worth picking up a pack when you see one Exactly. There’s no getting away from the fact that some people are panic buying and that will impact on others. Ironically, some of those that are panicking now are also those who mocked preppers. As I’ve seen from my clients.

I don’t need to panic buy, but I think some people are really sticking their heads in the sand, when they refuse to buy ANY extras in. Why would you not buy a few extras, if you have the money, rather than expect everyone else to look after you? That’s quite arrogant thinking and I think, in part, that comes from the fact that we are so spoiled in this country, that we can get our hands on anything, without much difficulty and that has made us blasé. Those of us who have taken steps to protect ourselves and especially our family, have even been told that we would be extremely selfish and immoral if we don’t want to share, if things go badly. So we’re selfish for preparing for any emergencies or illness, but also selfish for not sharing with those who can’t be arsed.

And coffee, I have got more coffee, in fact I would buy a years worth if I had the space. I like your priorities. 😁 I have a severe coffee addiction. Two coffee machines and about a dozen different types of coffees. I may need help. 😳😁

[icannotremember]

Look, if you don't want to take any extra steps to mitigate risk and plan for possible disruption, fine, but why whinge about people who do? What do you want, a round of applause for not being worried?

[T0tallyFuckedUpFamily]

So sorry, that’s awfully long. I kept getting distracted and adding things. TLDR. Stop relying on others to look after you. Stop being arrogant enough to think you know more than the experts and stop mocking those that are concerned.

[coconuttelegraph]

I also need paracetamol. Why are people panic buying that?

Never mind why, how are they doing it? Are they cycling round the tills stocking up 2 boxes at a time or visiting multiple shops?

Some people have lost all reason, I saw a woman on the news last night ranting about not sending her child to school despite the fact that there were no cases and the school had been deep cleaned. The hard of thinking are the problem here.

[bingbangbing]

Every year we get a new flu virus. That's why we have a new vaccination.

One person had died in the uk. One.

As desperately sad as that is and it may well be literally the end of the world for their loved ones. I would never, ever minimise the death of anyone.

It does not justify the panic and disruption that we're seeing. That's likely to do more harm.

[sleepingpup]

Look, if you don't want to take any extra steps to mitigate risk and plan for possible disruption, fine, but why whinge about people who do? What do you want, a round of applause for not being worried?

🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

Here's your round of applause OP

Mind you I'm still smiling over your comment that "it's weird" that people want to buy paracetamol.

[sonjadog]

I haven't done anything yet. It isn't in my area or near by, the shops are fully stocked, and I see no point in worrying about something that I have absolutely no control over. When it arrives in my area, I will be more careful with hygiene and I might stock up on a few things, but not until then.

[Sooverthemill]

We sue hand sanitiser when we can't get to a sink to wash hands ( DD has a chronic illness) so have it as a back up. DH uses it to clean his hearing aids ( that's what his audiologist told him to do) and we are running low. I can't buy any online and I can't get any in our very small town. So a little but worried that DH may develop ear infection as a result. But other than the fact that Tesco also has no hand wash ( again, doctor told us for hygiene it's better not to share bars of soap so we use pump bottles) so I bought a poncy one from a tourist shop in case. I thunk it's all a bit insane. DD who catches everything has swine flu and was incredibly unwell but no one else had it in our family and she did recover after very nasty few weeks.

[KahlanRahl]

The flu kills more people every year.

The year has just started. You can't compare the two yet.