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To come out of retirement for Coronavirus

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AlexaAmbidextra · 02/03/2020 22:15

Are you a retired nurse or doctor? I’m a retired nurse and there’s no way on God’s earth I’m coming out of retirement for this. Not because of the personal risk but the fact that I’m just done with working. Should I be more unselfish?

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Kirkman · 03/03/2020 07:00

My dad has said he will go back.

Almost 65. But only to support other services not working directly with corona.

OrangeCinnamon · 03/03/2020 07:07

Should be other alternatives aswell as

EnidBlyton · 03/03/2020 07:21

I would imagine the retirees would work as HCAs

AuntieStella · 03/03/2020 07:29

Matt Hancock has just been on Beeb Breakfast and this was mentioned.

He said they are targeting (to in with at least) those who retire below age 60.

He also that self-isolation on PHE/equivalent medical advice must count as sick leave

TabbyMumz · 03/03/2020 07:38

Isnt it a bit dangerous to bring nurses and doctors out of retirement anyway. I thought they needed to attend regular training updates?

fedup21 · 03/03/2020 07:41

if we work beyond this and a mistake happens we will almost certainly be hauled over the coals with no protection from our own union. No thank you.

I can definitely see this sort of thing happening.

boredboredboredboredbored · 03/03/2020 07:43

Yanbu! I am a front line nhs nurse (working with patients with respiratory disease). Have been nursing 22 years with 24 to go....If I had retired there's no way they'd drag me back out. Also you'd be putting yourself at risk unless it was phone referrals. The Government are crazy if they think they can rely on this plan

pourmeanotherglass · 03/03/2020 07:49

I imagine they will also ask some staff who work part time but don't have young children to increase their hours? I would do this, as would quite a few of my colleagues. In the past we have covered maternity leave and busy periods this way.

slartibarti · 03/03/2020 07:50

The Today programme has just said that retired NHS workers may be "allowed" to come out of retirement.
As if they're all sitting at home desperate to get back to working in the NHS

BeyondMyWits · 03/03/2020 07:53

They need people to work in their drive-through diagnostic centres - someone who knows which end of a swab to shove up a nose and how to put it in a bag without contaminating it.

Followed by someone to man the tented villages of the elderly with underlying health conditions infected, who will be left to die away from actual hospitals.

just me being cynical...

Casino218 · 03/03/2020 07:54

This is a mess of the governments own making. Didn't they recently say they were training 50 thousand more nurses. So they can help...right!
No of course they can't because it was yet another lie!
Patient heal thyself!

Newjez · 03/03/2020 07:58

Whilst many on here are saying they won't go back, I and my family have been treated many times by the NHS, and I am very familiar with the selfless caring nature of the staff. They often work under terrible conditions, long hours, often without breaks and unpaid.
I know that if we had pictures on the news of people dying and exhausted health care workers in tears, I do believe many will volunteer to go back because that is just the sort of people they are.
I think it's terrible that we are even considering this, and hopefully it won't come to it. But people show their best and worst in a crisis. I've only ever seen NHS staff show their best.

NearlyGranny · 03/03/2020 08:00

If they invite retirees back, some people will be delighted to respond. Leave it to them! Nobody has any right to question your decision. You have done your time before the mast, as I was told when I reached consultant level in my (non-health) career. I go back occasionally in retirement for the pure love of it, and the money, of course. Most wouldn't dream of it and I respect that as should everyone.

Helpmechangemymindsetplease · 03/03/2020 08:02

The virus is more dangerous for older people - in what world is it okay to invite older people back into crowded hospitals?

AuntieStella · 03/03/2020 08:05

'The virus is more dangerous for older people - in what world is it okay to invite older people back into crowded hospitals?'

Hancock said today they will be asking back those who retired early (under age 60)

Reginabambina · 03/03/2020 08:05

I can 100% understand not doing for risk reasons. I’d think twice on that grounds. I definitely wouldn’t think someone was selfish for deciding that their own life mattered to much to them. But being done working does seem very selfish. Voluntary retirement in itself is a selfish concept in a way (not judging people for doing it, if I had the money to retire entirely I might do one day) but refusing to come out of it for a few months during a pandemic is definitely selfish. I struggle to understand the reasoning that the risk doesn’t matter to you, you just really don’t want to work.

Ponoka7 · 03/03/2020 08:07

Cutting immigration was never going to really happen. So this has given the Government the perfect excuse to do a turnaround on their promises.

PhilCornwall1 · 03/03/2020 08:13

Voluntary retirement in itself is a selfish concept in a way

How is it? I'm planning on going early and have been planning for that for years.

I work to live and not the other way around. I have zero loyalty to my employer. If I can (and have), jump to another organisation willing to pay me considerably more, I'm gone without a care.

PlomBear · 03/03/2020 08:14

I bet they won’t even pay. You’ll be working for free for the glory of honour of staffing the NHS.

nannybeach · 03/03/2020 08:25

In the early 2000s I worked with a nurse of 70, she was brilliant, her DH and only child (adult) had died, she was lonely, real old school, salt of the earth. I stayed 5 years beyond my retirement age, because I couldnt afford to retire, I was just about to go part-time, moving to a local Hospital, (I had just over 100 mile round trip commute) my DH went to work as usual, came home and told me his company had liqudated, no work from that minute on, no pay for that month, I had to stay in my job, to pay the mortgage. Local job was much less pay, (I was on outer London weighting, and high cost living allowance) and was temporary workforce bearuea, so not guaranteed work anyway.Yes, annual updates, but you dont forget how to do basic obs, temps etc, blood tests.

PhilCornwall1 · 03/03/2020 08:25

@PlomBear it if they do get paid, you can guarantee that HMRC will want their pound of flesh and totally get it wrong in the first place.

You just wouldn't want the hassle.

fedup21 · 03/03/2020 08:27

refusing to come out of it for a few months during a pandemic is definitely selfish

I completely disagree.

I bet no retired MPs will be coming out of retirement to help anywhere they might be useful.

Robuns · 03/03/2020 08:29

YANBU at all. I reckon the financial incentive might be okay though, they offered many armed forces personnel who had been made redundant a nice little amount to rejoin- so maybe some will.

PhilCornwall1 · 03/03/2020 08:32

refusing to come out of it for a few months during a pandemic is definitely selfish

It isn't. I know in this day and age of Be Kind and all that this won't go down well, but I wouldn't put myself at potential risk for anyone apart from my family if I had retired from it. Selfish? That's fine, I'd be comfortable with that.

Fannia · 03/03/2020 08:39

If it were an emergency and this was the only option then I think people should do it if they are able, but it seems likely there is a better way.

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