Would you self isolate?

[janemaster]

The advice is to self isolate if you have travelled from certain areas abroad, even if you have no symptoms. We know in other countries that not everyone has followed this advice.
So be honest, if you had no symptoms but were told to self isolate for 2 weeks in the house, would you? This would mean not leaving the house at all and staying in a separate room from anyone else living in your house.

YABU - No I would not
YANBU - Yes I would

@Boppingbooper321 will you be paying that posters rent, food bill and utilities?

@datasgingercatspot , don't live in a fancy house in a fancy neighbourhood. Quite the opposite. Which is one of the reasons I'm a general prepper so two weeks stuck in tbe house is no big deal to me.
But there's no point saying "I told you so".

Oh and we also have plenty of food to survive for two weeks if for some reason we couldn't get deliveries, although we might be a bit sick of pasta and sauce by the end of it! Our freezer alone is pretty much full with chicken breasts, mince, fish, and stuff like chopped veg, etc. (not because we are preppers but because we are crap at meal-planning so have to panic-freeze stuff ). And we have cupboard stores to last probably another three weeks on top of that.

That's nice, bellin, but plenty of people don't have the room for such and certainly cannot afford to go without pay for weeks. It's nice that it's no big deal for you and you can still afford essentials like gas and leccy, etc.

@ACautionaryTale makes a very good point and the government's current "wash your hands " plan doesn't touch it.

@datasgingercatspot , I can manage without lecky etc because I've planned for not being able to afford it. Not because I have loads of cash to pay for it.

As for loads of room, don't make me laugh.

will you be paying that posters rent, food bill and utilities?
Sadly I will probably be sitting in hospital with a very poorly child hoping she survives due to selfish people who will not self isolate for the sake of 2 weeks. While also worrying about paying my own mortgage and bills because I did self isolate when I was asked to but before/after self isolation some disgusting people decided they care so little about others so my family still suffer.

So again. How are these people supposed to survive?

Hmm, I'd sorta manage to self isolate now, but my entire family would be quarantined with me as there's no spare room or anything. My Dr doesn't actually work with any pharmacies though so they'd presumably have to make an exception for my mum who is asthmatic and then hopefully get the medicine delivered.

And we don't actually know anyone who could help us as we've recently moved to the area.

And if DP wouldn't get paid we couldn't afford food or rent or anything so then what, we have no/ very little buffer.

And online shopping has a min spend of £40 or thereabouts, I could cover that now (as long as DP is earning), but 3 years ago I didn't have that much, just didn't.

And those suggesting Amazon pantry/ ocado/ Waitrose, those are only options for people who are financially ok, can't imagine people on the breadline managing with those options.

That's nice, bellin, it must be nice to be so perfect. I guess all those who aren't as clever and superior as you are just selfish twats . I'm a prepper myself. But being able to think outside of my own box, I can completely understand that many, many people will not be able to self-isolate and that doesn't make them cretins.

Again, you tell me. Because I can only look out for me and mine. And I can encourage people who can be self reliant to do so and keep out of the way.

I voted YABU because being completely isolated from the rest of the household when you are in the same house than your family is just impossible.
At some point, you will use the same bathroom (only one in my house), the kitchen etc etc.
Never being in the same room together will be extremely difficult in a practical pOV.
The only way to really self isolate (the way you describe it) is to be in a house with no one else or with other people who also self isolate.

That, of course, is wo talking about specific issues such as a lone parent and so on.

If you're a renter or on UC, yes, because the DWP will happily cut you off without a penny if you don't turn up for your appointment or your zero hours job and then how are you supposed to bloody eat?

You account for that by buying whatever small amounts of food you can now. I say that as someone who is struggling financially so I know it's hard but it's not an excuse to ignore instructions if issued by nhs/public health wales/ WHO.

@datasgingercatspot , I entirely get why some people can't. But most people can. And they don't because they expect someone else to do it for them.

I'm sure the DWP will definitely be supportive of such people, Bopping, since UC is so generous they'll all have money stashed away to put in the gas and leccy meters after their benefits are immediately stopped for non-attendance of even one meeting (they even sanction people who are in hospital) and then for the weeks of not a penny after they restart their UC application. That's so going to work!

"Someone else will do my shopping "
Selfish and ridiculous

And how are people who live in HMO meant to self isolate when they share facilities, not everyone lives in a comfortable family home, these people often do insecure zero hour contract jobs as well, so would probably end up with no pay and no job and then no roof over their head.

Can somebody with more intelligence than me explain how this person would self isolate?

a. Works as a carer for vulnerable people so unable to work from home.
b. Zero hour contract, no work, no pay.
c. No friends or family to do the shopping for them.
d. Lives in an area with a village shop and no supermarket delivery service.
e. No freezer or big food stocks in as shops little and often as needs money from benefits one day a week and then the money from work on a different day of the week.

I think I could probably do it because of a very fortunate set of circumstances:
Spare bedroom with ensuite
Live with another adult so they could shop, run DD about etc
Can work entirely from home
Live in an urban environment where I could get food delivered

What happens when all those zero hours delivery hours drivers self-isolate? The zero hours workers who fulfil all the orders? To your relatives in care homes when the zero hours workers there can't show up because they are self-isolating? Those selfish bastards!

I'm sure the DWP will definitely be supportive of such people, Bopping, since UC is so generous they'll all have money stashed away to put in the gas and leccy meters after their benefits are immediately stopped for non-attendance of even one meeting (they even sanction people who are in hospital) and then for the weeks of not a penny after they restart their UC application. That's so going to work!

I think you are missing my point. It is not the DWP responsibility to make sure people do the right thing. I know how awful the DWP are and while I'm not replying on them at the moment I rely on my wage from work. It is also not my employers responsibility to make sure I do the right thing. What I'm saying it, if this virus has such a high death risk in the UK and I'm told I need to self-isolate to prevent it spreading to other more vulnerable people who could die then I will take responsibility for that and self-isolate DESPITE my financial concerns (I won't get paid to be off work).

Why does everyone think that people who work in supermarkets are on zero hours and minimum wage? I’ve worked at 3 of the big ones and I can assure you, it’s not the case at all

But it doesn't actually have a high death rate.

Well, here's a for you, then. Many, MANY people through no fault of their own will not be able to do this as they will have literally nothing to eat, nothing to put in the meter, not a penny for weeks and weeks whilst their UC claim is re-started and don't live in a place where they even can self-isolate. This doesn't make them morally inferior.