Would you self isolate?

[janemaster]

The advice is to self isolate if you have travelled from certain areas abroad, even if you have no symptoms. We know in other countries that not everyone has followed this advice.
So be honest, if you had no symptoms but were told to self isolate for 2 weeks in the house, would you? This would mean not leaving the house at all and staying in a separate room from anyone else living in your house.

YABU - No I would not
YANBU - Yes I would

Just because I see a problem. Doesn't mean it's my problem to solve. so in effect you are saying that you don’t care about the poorest people because you don’t see it as your problem. You don’t self isolate = so what if a really poor person then starves as they are then forced to self isolate because of me.

@Coolcucumber2020 I myself could probably self isolate.

I'm just seeing a massive problem that some people won't. Because they won't be able to.

And if I was in their situation I wouldn't either.

@Thesearmsofmine Apparently people like you don't exist. And it's easy. Because all you'd have to do is pay more bills when he does get paid.
That would work for you right?

@Thesearmsofmine

Okay so if I take the same attitude as you then. I get the virus. I don’t self isolate. I then pass it to you. You all get ill and your husband loses his job or whatever. But I don’t care as I didn’t want to lose my job or pay.

That is the society you are proposing? A simple yes or no will do.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit

You know nothing about my life or what I have been through. I was homeless. Instead of whining, I found out some facts and used them to get a roof over my head. I have been down to 10p to last two days. You are not exceptional. I had £19k of debt too. So don't tell me what I do and don't understand.

What I understand VERY well, is that you are EXACTLY the kind of person who would end up losing their house, because you would rather talk shite and be a victim than actually get facts and be proactive and help improve things.

I have told you of at least three agencies to speak to who can all provide support and advice so you could make a plan. Instead, you would rather spout wrong information and bemoan others for not understanding. You have NO IDEA!

Interesting twitter thread from Robert Peston discussing the exact issues we have been exploring in this thread.
twitter.com/Peston/status/1234415365540765697

Be interesting to see what the DWP suggests this week.

Please find your MPs email address www.parliament.uk/get-involved/contact-your-mp/
And write to them NOW.
Ask them to pressure the government to make unequivocal statements about allowing late payments. And to talk to banks , utilities etc.
Self isolation is for the common good. Not everyone can do it easily.

It's quite shocking that so many people wouldn't self isolate. Surely not infecting other people and potentially killing them should be the priority. I think it demonstrates the need for more draconian measures although at the same time I think those who are told to self isolate should (if they can provide evidence) be given some compensation if they are not paid statutory sick pay.

Benefits take many weeks to arrange you can’t just rock up and instantly receive them

You can apply online or at a jobcentre and have your full months entitlement to UC advanced to you if you so wish.

@SirChing boohoo.

I haven't actually seen any solutions. CA is shit. You don't actually know what department I work in so you actually have no knowledge of my experience or ability.

And foster care. Seriously?!

Yea. Nobody is going to choose that.

@DingleberryRose I know it can be a really serious illness but I have thought the same myself!

Take over the living room, DH managing DD... Amazon Prime now deliveries of lovely food wine left on the step. Not having to speak to anyone - I know that makes me sound like a total curmudgeon but I'd love 2 weeks on my own with my books.

In a similar way, I holed up with DD when she had chicken pox - her friend had a life threatening condition and was immuno-compromised (sp?) and there was no way in hell I was taking her out of the house until I was sure she wasn't contagious.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit you boo hooing me is hilarious You really are one of life's professional victims aren't you?

Re foster care: a) it wasn't me that said it and b) h at you thinking you would get a choice. If you were in ICU, and had infected all those people around you who could have had your kids, then your kids WOULD be put into foster care irrespective of your "choice".

No, I have no idea which department you work in, I just hope to God you aren't near anything sharp!

Some useful property advice rather than alarmist projections.

If you are a home-owner with a mortgage and you will struggle if you take two weeks to self-isolate, CONTACT YOUR LENDER. Most lenders will offer either a payment "holiday" or will have a contingency plan in place for situations such as this. Have ready documentation such as Government advice and why this applies to you.

If you are a tenant and, again, will struggle without two weeks wage - you need to contact your LL and again explain the situation and how you will rectify this. Remember all LLs have to stick to the outline of timescales in the Housing Act 1988 and have to follow a prescribed format of action.

In the event of a national crisis; it is most likely that the Government will create some sort of temporary arrangement to deal with large numbers of people being unable to pay rent/mortgage (and no, this won't be "kick everyone out, mwahahahaha"). Repossession/eviction is in nobodies best interest and with a large scale unprecedented "act of God" event, measures will be taken.

@itsallthedramaMickiloveit and don't bother replying as I am hiding the thread. I know when to give up on people.

I'm really not. I'm in a fantastic position. I'm on mat leave and even on my husbands income we have enough to pay everything and more.

My husbands company has full pay for 3 months of sickness so we wouldn't even suffer any dip in income.

Garden is big enough that if we were self isolated and well then the children could still get some form of outdoors.

So. I'm not worried.

But I can still see a massive issue for others.

I know. Luckily one post can cover multiple replies.

@Coolcucumber2020 I think what you will find is that I propose that companies and the government act responsibly to ensure people don’t find themselves in hardship. As I have stated on this thread I would want to self isolate and have some basic supplies to help but it is a very difficult position to put people when they don’t have a buffer. I am not sure why you are seemingly so against people being helped?

I'm in a fantastic position so you are scaremongering for the benefit of others then? How very kind of you! And it is spectacularly insensitive on a thread such a this to then boast about your "fantastic position" (I am glad you think it is. It must be a "horses for courses" thing). On a thread where some posters have said they are struggling, do you think it's kind to spout untruths and then boast about your position? That you aren't self aware enough to realise how you come across is just really pitiful to be honest. I don't think I have cringed this much at one poster before.

So would you self isolate then Drama? Or not. Would you if they had symptoms?

I don’t get your posts now. You are in the position to do it

How's blocking the thread go? If you're experiencing a glitch you can let MN know.

It's not Scaremongering. It's a discussion. If people can't cope with it they can switch off.

You kept going on about my position and me being a victim. I just corrected you.

@MarshaBradyo I've said all along. If I cake between paying my bills and self isolating with no symptoms I would have to secure the money first.

Who knows what will happen in the future. At parents there is no protection for those who are in poverty.

I believe this reality needs to be discussed.

No i wouldnt, i cant afford to take 2 weeks off work

@Bloke23 I hope you don't mind me asking but other posters haven't believed there are people in your position.

Would you be able to catch up on payments and arrears after losing two weeks pay?

Ok so it’s more hypothetical for you atm, but for others who have to choose you’d understand if they don’t. If I have that right.

It’s a hard one, although it is up for debate when there are no symptoms it’s going to get harder for people when there are as those bills will still have to be paid.

Those who say that they won't self isolate. Have you thought that if you turn up for work and your colleagues find out that you should be self isolating, they will report you. I would do that and I bet many others will. I think workplaces will take a very dim view of people potentially infecting everyone else .So maybe you will lose your job as a result.