"Only the elderly/immune suppressed are at risk" - attitude of dicks?

[SylvanianFrenemies]

People who say not to worry about Coronavirus, because "Only the elderly/chronically ill/immune suppressed" are dicks.

Some of us fall into these categories. Some love people who fall into these categories. Some have some essence of humanity. Stop using "Only the xxx" to dismiss concerns. Stop conflating it with flu.

Wash your hands. Isolate yourself as required. Err on the side of caution.

YABU = I agree with these dicks.
YANBU = I am human.

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MimiLaRue

I think you've missed the point. I've said across all these, threads, people in Nigeria aren't in the best of health. They cope with a lot of environmental and disease attacks on their body. It doesn't comfort them to know they are at risk and there's little that they can do about it.

The world will have to release more funds to help out.

We can't lock down the oil industry without it having global ramifications.

People are unaware of what this is doing to world markets. We have limited our trading capability and prices were going to rise anyway.

This virus isn't like flu.

Not a backpedal. I do think I'm right. I'm just emphasising that I'm not referring private conversations , I'm not a spy.

I do think people who think and say Coronavirus is no big deal because it isn't a particular risk for them are dicks. Absolutely.

People who are immunocompromised only know they are at risk of dying from this because of all those Government messages saying - don't worry only elderly people and those with chronic health problems like asthma, diabetes and heart problems are more at risk.

And yes the mortality rate so far is 9%. That is very high.

And it does reassure me that my DCs are likely to just have mild symptoms if they get it. I don't want them to die. But I would never post or say a general statement of - don't worry only children with existing illnesses are at risk, because that is a shit thing to say.

Children under 10 do not seem to be at risk at all by the way. But that will not reassure parents with teenagers who are more at risk.

@MimiLaRue more on mumsnet/elsewhere online. No one I know in this country is posting about it.

I don’t think people are saying it to say that the elderly etc don’t matter. In the scheme of things at a big macro level, it is more worrying if you have a virus that takes out young, healthy people. As crass as it sounds, there would be far great societal implications of 100k otherwise healthy 40 year olds being hospitalised than 100k 80 year olds. Where that becomes problematic is there there will clearly be lots of 40 year olds with ore-existing conditions who are economically active, looking after children, elderly parents etc.

At an individual level, I’m concerned about my parents and my youngest who has respiratory issues. I’d have thought most people will have someone close that falls into the elderly/pre-existing condition category so I don’t really think people are saying it to be othering.

@SylvanianFrenemies I think people are being falsely reassured. China took extreme measures to contain the virus. That is not happening here.

woodchuck99 you're hilarious you really are. I suggest you look at how many people always disagree with you before you start telling people they're hard of understanding

@Cremebrule You are right. But in reality elderly is over 50 for this virus, not over 80.

I give up with threads like this for the people who just want to panic and believe were all gonna die then fine believe that but I suggest you find something better to do with your numbered days then coming onto mumsnet to argue about it

I do think people who think and say Coronavirus is no big deal because it isn't a particular risk for them are dicks. Absolutely.

You also seem to think people with a different opinion to you are dicks so hardly surprising.

Please link to said comments.

woodchuck99 you're hilarious you really are. I suggest you look at how many people always disagree with you before you start telling people they're hard of underst

What are you talking about? OP is making the point I was trying to make on another thread. The majority of people agree.

And if this virus does take hold it will cause major issues.
Personally I think it makes sense to have 2 weeks worth of food in the house. Washing hands has always mattered, in spite of all those people on MN threads about washing hands who say it makes no difference. It does keep you healthier.
But I think there are going to be major issues in this country and the Government are just trying to stop people panicking, because the stupid people do things that makes the situation worse.

@flower1994 Nobody thinks we are all going to die. There is a middle ground between we are all going to die and we are all going to be okay.

And yes the mortality rate so far is 9%.

No it isn't! Where the hell are you getting that figure from that you keep trotting out? The WHO says it is 2%.

Mortality rate 9%?. What? What do you know that the WHO don’t?

EVERYONE is at risk ffs! SARS-CoV2 does and HAS killed people with non-suppressed immune systems.... 🤦🏼‍♀️

Saying “it’s only the old or compromised” isn’t necessarily dickish. People naturally worry more about their kids that their elderly relatives. That’s normal. They’re trying to reassure themselves
I'm in my 60s but it's not me I'm worried about it's my daughter who has several serious health problems and four dependent children. I don't want people going round saying 'it's only like flu and old people die of flu anyway', and I've seen posts like this on MN, I want people to take the threat seriously for the sake of others.

janemaster why cant the people who are panicking allow others who are not to just be then?

9% is the figure if you look at the amount of people who have recovered from the virus or died. WHO originally said 2% because they thought there were a lot of people in China getting it mildly who were not included in the official stats. They are now rethinking that and are saying China has been very good at tracking people down and testing them.
I personally don't think the death rate in Italy is as high as the stats suggest. According to that it is 14%. But I suspect Italy has been much worse than China at diagnosing people who have mild symptoms.

@flower1994 It is very easy to ignore MN threads on this. Its not like we are knocking at your door trying to talk to you about this. It is your choice to read these threads.

janemaster yes, because apparently people like me who are not panicking are dicks and its nice to be able to explain why were not