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Conflict in the Middle East

Another baby needlessly killed

27 replies

Islandsofsand · 07/06/2026 07:57

Felt compelled to post.

A family driving in their car. A trigger happy IDF soldier. Single shot. 7 month old Palestinian baby dies. One person at a time. One baby at a time. One family at a time. Driven out. Killed. Until no more Palestinians in the West Bank? Ethnic cleansing?

From river to sea, Israelis will be free? Actions speak louder than words. Yet people fear the words more.

Of course the IDF will investigate but why does this not change the behaviour of their soldiers?

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/06/middleeast/israeli-soldiers-shoot-palestinian-baby-intl

Israeli soldiers open fire on car in West Bank, killing 7-month-old baby | CNN

Israeli soldiers opened fire on a car in the occupied West Bank on Friday, killing a 7-month old Palestinian baby boy and wounding his parents, according to the Palestinian Ministry of Health.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/06/06/middleeast/israeli-soldiers-shoot-palestinian-baby-intl

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Martymcfly24 · 07/06/2026 09:06

It is just such a tragedy.
Another child killed in a car by the IDF.

Putting a gun in a conscripted 18 year olds hand who has been taught to hate is clearly a strategy that has these consequences.

JadeHare · 10/06/2026 20:26

Video shows family’s car slowing before Israeli troops shot dead Palestinian baby.

Article in the Guardian.There’s a suprise.

“Footage has emerged that appears to contradict the Israeli military’s account of the shooting that killed seven-month-old Sam Abu Haikal in his mother’s arms, showing the family’s car slowing near a military post before soldiers opened fire.
On Friday, the killing of the infant by Israeli troops in the occupied West Bank caused outrage, after soldiers opened fire on the family’s vehicle despite it having complied with an order to stop. Sam was killed and his mother, Daniyah Abu Haikal, and father, Fahed Abu Haikal, were both injured.
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The Israel Defense Forces said its troops had “perceived a vehicle accelerating toward them” and that one of the soldiers had “responded with single shots toward the vehicle”.
However, footage obtained by the Israeli Information Center for Human Rights, B’Tselem, contradicts IDF claims that the car in which the Abu Haikal family was travelling was accelerating towards them when they shot.”

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A Palestinian father stands in a Hebron hospital emergency room with his clothes stained with blood. His his seven-month-old baby was killed by Israeli forces, the Palestinian health ministry said. Photo: 5 June 2026

Palestinian baby killed by Israeli gunfire in West Bank, says health ministry

The Israeli military says Friday's "incident is under review", expressing "deep sorrow for any harm caused".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy828e64vp8o

Islandsofsand · 10/06/2026 22:06

That’s awful. Poor family. How do you remain in a place where your baby was killed by a state that wants you gone, whose laws don’t seem to protect you? Yet to leave means you have given in. Which is what they want.

Really feel for the innocent Palestinians. Really does make you think about all those in the Middle East whose safety is threatened.

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UltraCynica · 06/07/2026 22:16

No one in the UK seems to care.

Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.

Our government are complicit.
Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children.
NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.

If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic.

Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 16:26

Stop making claims that aren't true. Many care. The power is with the US, the Israeli government and with Hamas the leaders in Gaza. There are hundreds and hundreds of threads discussing Gaza, there are people who centre Gaza as the most important and campaign for Gaza. Just because others don't, doesn't mean they don't care. This constant attempt to dump on others isn't of use, doesn't help Gazans, and doesn't attract posters to discussing Gaza.

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 16:38

UltraCynica · 06/07/2026 22:16

No one in the UK seems to care.

Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.

Our government are complicit.
Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children.
NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.

If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic.

Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

You make lots of claims that are not backed up with facts.

It's a very talked about topic. No one is silenced, but when posters make random claims, it's important they are challenged. Facts do matter. Perhaps you might consider examples of proof when you make sweeping claims, a bit like that required in academic writing. Carries more weight then.

RedTagAlan · 10/07/2026 16:41

This death in an airstrike. Why ? Just why ?

Man who organised World Cup screening in Gaza killed in Israeli strike just before kick off | ITV News

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:00

RedTagAlan · 10/07/2026 16:41

Awful.

JadeHare · 10/07/2026 17:19

RedTagAlan · 10/07/2026 16:41

Most likely because the Egyptian coach put the Palestinian flag over his shoulders after the win the other day, and someone in Israel didn’t like it. Petty revenge.

MissyB1 · 10/07/2026 17:25

UltraCynica · 06/07/2026 22:16

No one in the UK seems to care.

Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.

Our government are complicit.
Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children.
NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.

If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic.

Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

I agree. I’m sick of the minimising, the deflection, the “look over there instead” whataboutery, the constant denial of facts, the accusations of lying (already on this thread). It’s depressing and exhausting, but then I remember how much more depressing and exhausting it is for Palestinians themselves, and that’s why we need to keep highlighting the horror that is happening to them.

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 17:34

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 16:38

You make lots of claims that are not backed up with facts.

It's a very talked about topic. No one is silenced, but when posters make random claims, it's important they are challenged. Facts do matter. Perhaps you might consider examples of proof when you make sweeping claims, a bit like that required in academic writing. Carries more weight then.

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Which claims would you like me to back up with fact?

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:37

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 17:34

Which claims would you like me to back up with fact?

Every claim you make.

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 17:39

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:37

Every claim you make.

Pick one and we'll go with that first. I am about to head out for the evening so time is short.

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:41

Your claims on this post.

  1. No one in the UK seems to care.
  1. Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.
  1. Our government are complicit.
  1. Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
  1. The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children. (Which torture weapons and killing weapons for children are we selling them?)
  1. NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.
  1. If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic. (Quote the posts)
  1. Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

All of these claims need proof.

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:45

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 17:39

Pick one and we'll go with that first. I am about to head out for the evening so time is short.

You made the claims. Various claims. You provided no proof for any.

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 18:37

ENGLANDalltheway · 10/07/2026 17:41

Your claims on this post.

  1. No one in the UK seems to care.
  1. Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.
  1. Our government are complicit.
  1. Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
  1. The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children. (Which torture weapons and killing weapons for children are we selling them?)
  1. NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.
  1. If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic. (Quote the posts)
  1. Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

All of these claims need proof.

Edited

Only had time for these 3:

  1. Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups: _https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/_
  2. The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children. (Which torture weapons and killing weapons for children are we selling them?): _https://www.oxfam.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-oxfam/gaza-israel-crisis-sign-petition-call-for-ceasefire-now/does-the-uk-sell-arms-to-israel/_
  3. NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel: _https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-ghassan-abu-sitta-09-jan-26.pdf_

Israel lobby funded half of Keir Starmer’s cabinet

Exclusive: Labour’s top team has accepted hundreds of thousands of pounds from pro-Israel funders.

https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/

Darragon · 10/07/2026 19:21

UltraCynica · 10/07/2026 18:37

Only had time for these 3:

  1. Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups: _https://www.declassifieduk.org/israel-lobby-funded-half-of-keir-starmers-cabinet/_
  2. The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children. (Which torture weapons and killing weapons for children are we selling them?): _https://www.oxfam.org.uk/get-involved/campaign-with-oxfam/gaza-israel-crisis-sign-petition-call-for-ceasefire-now/does-the-uk-sell-arms-to-israel/_
  3. NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel: _https://www.mpts-uk.org/-/media/mpts-rod-files/dr-ghassan-abu-sitta-09-jan-26.pdf_

NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel
You said this in the plural. Who are all the others? This one appears to be a fair cop for overt hate speech. IME they never suspend doctors lightly for anything, so I’d like more info about the other doctors you have referred to.

Martymcfly24 · 10/07/2026 19:30

Darragon · 10/07/2026 19:21

NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel
You said this in the plural. Who are all the others? This one appears to be a fair cop for overt hate speech. IME they never suspend doctors lightly for anything, so I’d like more info about the other doctors you have referred to.

UKFLI has posted about this themselves the amount of complaints they have made to the GMC

https://www.uklfi.com/?s=Gmc

The GMC have not suspended this man

Dr Staveley is reported to have responded to a social media question referencing Palestinian children in Gaza, “how many babies have you sniped?” with the reply: “not enough.”

JadeHare · 10/07/2026 20:39

To be honest I don’t understand why we are all fighting on this thread about a baby being killed. A baby was killed. Prove this, prove that becomes very tiresome and exhausting. A baby was killed. Unnecessarily. End of.

MissyB1 · 10/07/2026 21:11

JadeHare · 10/07/2026 20:39

To be honest I don’t understand why we are all fighting on this thread about a baby being killed. A baby was killed. Prove this, prove that becomes very tiresome and exhausting. A baby was killed. Unnecessarily. End of.

Bottom line is some people would rather start an argument than admit that Israel killed yet another child for no reason. Sigh…. 😞

ENGLANDalltheway · 11/07/2026 18:02

MissyB1 · 10/07/2026 21:11

Bottom line is some people would rather start an argument than admit that Israel killed yet another child for no reason. Sigh…. 😞

Incorrect. It is awful that a baby has been killed.

When someone makes a very long list of claims and doesn't offer evidence, it will be asked for. Separate matter altogether. Perhaps poster shouldn't make a long list of unproven claims on a thread about a innocent baby that has been killed. Not the place to dump various claims. However asking for evidence is normal.

ENGLANDalltheway · 12/07/2026 02:07

Darragon · 10/07/2026 19:21

NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel
You said this in the plural. Who are all the others? This one appears to be a fair cop for overt hate speech. IME they never suspend doctors lightly for anything, so I’d like more info about the other doctors you have referred to.

The one doctor investigated in this report was investigated for reposting various comments shown to support Hamas, terrorism and violence.

Not sure how anyone might think investigation of a doctor for posting items supporting a terrorist organisation, violence etc is wrong. Glad the doctor was investigated. He's supposed to treat patients not repost comments supporting Hamas and terrorism.

rainingsnoring · 12/07/2026 02:39

UltraCynica · 06/07/2026 22:16

No one in the UK seems to care.

Barely anyone even responds to news like this anymore, they are so busy looking the other way and pretending it isn't happening.

Our government are complicit.
Our government are donated to by massive Israeli lobby groups.
The UK are selling Israel the weapons to kill and torture children.
NHS doctors are being investigated and suspended by the GMC - all instigated by UK Lawyers for Israel.

If you disagree with the Israeli genocide of Palestinians and the physical and sexual torture of Palestinian children by the IDF you are called antisemetic.

Every single time anyone raises the issue of genocide they are silenced.

Yes. The behaviour of so many in the UK and the rest of the West plus, of course, their governments is despicable.
When the Spanish PM speaks out against it, Trump threatens him.
There is something very rotten.

rainingsnoring · 12/07/2026 02:43

ENGLANDalltheway · 12/07/2026 02:07

The one doctor investigated in this report was investigated for reposting various comments shown to support Hamas, terrorism and violence.

Not sure how anyone might think investigation of a doctor for posting items supporting a terrorist organisation, violence etc is wrong. Glad the doctor was investigated. He's supposed to treat patients not repost comments supporting Hamas and terrorism.

The doctor involved is female! You don't seem to know much about this if you don't even know the sex of the doctor involved.
Meanwhile, Eastland Stavely who fought for the IDF and commited murder (although, according to him, he didn't kill enough babies) is still able to practice. He own surgery have removed him but he is able to work remotely.

ENGLANDalltheway · 12/07/2026 09:11

rainingsnoring · 12/07/2026 02:43

The doctor involved is female! You don't seem to know much about this if you don't even know the sex of the doctor involved.
Meanwhile, Eastland Stavely who fought for the IDF and commited murder (although, according to him, he didn't kill enough babies) is still able to practice. He own surgery have removed him but he is able to work remotely.

I read the report linked. It doesn't matter if a male or female post, supporting Hamas or terrorism, it needs and was investigated, correctly so. Dont you think it should have been? Pretty simple really. Not sure how that is problematic to anyone 🤔