Is the penny finally starting to drop about anti semitism and hate marches?

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/04/starmer-c al l-society-response-rising-antisemitism

I think we are now seeing the cumulative impact of the anti senitism that has built up over the last 3 years where there has been a permissive environment with politicians hesitant to intervene in events in the streets that have incubated anti Jew sentiment.

All political parties apart from the hate apologist Greens are now waking up to the fact we need better policing and perhaps legislation. I for one will acting a vote for a party that recognises hate marches for what they are and also willing to tackle the vile posts appearing on social media (and Labour have reacted too late too little). Enough is enough for a Jewish community that lives in perpetual fear.

It suggests no such thing. I've no doubt if there were other offending plates we'd know about them

It’s quite straightforward

Is it propaganda about an extremely sensitive conflict?

Ok it is, shit, don’t know how we missed it. Thanks for letting us know, we’ll take the display down.

No ‘but it’s been up for ages’ or ‘people really want the propaganda on the walls’ changes that.

And if taking down the offending components means having to examine the whole thing or means it needs rearranging or redoing or whatever, then of course take the whole thing down. Its presence in the hospital is clearly not necessary.

It’s not that deep.

What, more ironic than all those Jews who allegedly march alongside the people who call for a globalised Intifada?

I do wonder if the Jews who march don’t ever, somehow, hear globalise the intifada, or whether they think it won’t apply to them. That they are somehow different to the Jews in Golders Green or Manchester.

You're just making up scenarios now you've no idea what was included in the exhibition bar the art work on two plates. The hospital were threatened with legal action by one group so took it down after 11 years of no issues.

More info on the content and some images here in article linked. Positive project and some beautiful images no need to crack a nut with a sledgehammer

In 2012, three staff from CCHS travelled to Beit Lahiya Preparatory Girls' School and Jabalia Preparatory Boys School in Gaza. Students then aged 14 and 15 produced dozens of pictures of traditional and everyday life in Palestine, which one of the teachers scanned and emailed to the UK.

Back in London, students at the CCHS chose 21 images to transfer on to ceramic plates that they had produced as part of pottery classes and after-school activities. Some showed Palestinians carrying water jars, baking bread and milling lentils, beans and chickpeas. Others showed fishermen with their catch, workers harvesting olives and children playing with marbles.

Steel said: "It was a such a positive project for so many young people, children from different communities, who all had difficult times, coming together and supporting one another. That's what it was like."

Is it propaganda about an extremely sensitive conflict?
No

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/palestine-gaza-children-artwork-removed-hospital-looks-new-home

Dear god, you're not making it any better.

Were the plates propaganda? Yes.

Do they have any right to be in a place where people are who have no choice to be there. No. Whether the kids had a great time making the plates is absolutely irrelevant.

"Steel said that CCHS could not censor children when they undertook projects, and that they faced a similar issues before with a work from Spain that included the Catalan flag. "We are always very careful about what we do," she said, "but we are bound to cross boundaries sometimes, and this project is called Crossing Borders, and we did cross boundaries"

It should not be in the slightest bit controversial to want 'boundary crossing' art to be kept out of a fucking hospital.

Tommy Robinson has previously wrapped himself in an Israeli flag. He was told to keep away from the march against antisemitism as Jews (rightly) don't want his support.

Nope, not strange at all.

Tommy Robinson is funded by US tech billionaire Robert Shillman (a former board member of the Friends of the Israel Defense Forces) "is said to be a key figure in the transatlantic “counter-jihad” movement."
https://observer.co.uk/news/national/article/us-cash-turned-tommy-robinson-into-the-poster-boy-of-uk-far-right

So Yaxley-Lennon receives funding to lead his lemming followers in an anti Muslim crusade. Query who benefits.

It's really interesting to research who funds a lot of these "nationalist" movements (also see Geert Wilders) and query their motivation.

Art work done by children living in Gaza from their everyday life and the images used by children in the hospital school in London to transfer onto plates to use in a exhibition is political propaganda?

Some of the images are in the linked article, depressing that you would think pictures drawn by children of their everyday life is propaganda but I guess it depends on who the child drawing the picture is.

The organiser literally admitted that boundaries had been crossed.

I do not understand why Starmer thinks a group of people flying the Palestinian flag in the UK is acceptable but a group of people flying the English flag isn't.

There are people with pro-hamas flags and antisemitic chants.

Yet those with england flags are 'decisive and hateful'.

Yes and it happened before she said they don't like censoring children. As I've said remove the offending plates rather than an entire exhibition that sounds like it took a lot of time and work both in Gaza and London. With many children involved. We'll never agree on this and I regret even bringing it up, it was 3 years ago exhibition long gone so the art is in storage no one has to ever again see these propaganda art pieces by the Palestinian children.

Quite happy for it to be displayed somewhere that isn’t a hospital, where people can choose to see it. This isn’t hard.

There was not a single complaint to the hospital as became clear in the FOI request.

But a landmark complaint has now been lodged against the pro-Israel lawyers by the Public Interest Law Centre (PILC) and the European Legal Support Center (ELSC).
The 114-page report, which has been sent to the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA), says UKLFI is using the law improperly to threaten civil society groups and is operating as an unregulated legal firm.

Well it might have been hard for the children attending the hospital school who contributed to the project and who it was mainly for to see it elsewhere.....

So what?

It could have been Putin or Trump or actual Satan saying it was inappropriate artwork for a hospital and he’d still have had a point.

But you think, I presume, that cultural boycotts of Israel are wrong? How would you feel about Israeli art being removed on the grounds that it would make people uncomfortable? About it being relegated to a separate space that is "opt-in"?

I'm assuming, a decade later, that isn't an issue.

The Palestinian flag on the Dome of the Rock or a plate showing the wrong borders isn't about a 'cultural boycott' of some banal plates though, is it?

Do you not understand why those might be controversial therefore unsuitable for a hospital?

Oh. Thought this thread was about hate marches that happened in the UK and the UK only. Yet it seems to have digressed to art work in a hospital which upset some people.

Just thought I’d point it out…..

It's still about trying to pretend that legitimate concerns are illegitimate because they come from people you don't like or disagree with.

But the topic is hate marches in the UK? Sure that’s what I got told yesterday, and not to divert from the topic, and therefore start my own topic regarding the hate marches going on elsewhere. So maybe you should start an art work topic?

Gosh well I could get it back on topic by pointing out that dismissing legitimate objections by Jewish people is a common thread.

Especially as tens of thousands of Tommy Robinson far right supporters have been out with their hate today. But hey. Let’s discuss again these hospital pictures. ( I’m sure there was a thread on this some time ago )