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Conflict in the Middle East

US and Israel strike Iran. (title edited by MNHQ at request of the OP)

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Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 06:46

Israel attacked Iran early on Saturday morning, saying it had “launched a pre-emptive strike against Iran to remove threats to the state of Israel,” according to a military spokesman.

Israel closed its airspace and declared a state of emergency, in anticipation of
Iranian drone and missile strikes in response.

Explosions were heard in Tehran on Saturday, Iranian media reported.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/israel-launches-attack-on-iran-as-explosions-heard-in-tehran

Israel launches attack on Iran as explosions heard in Tehran

Blasts heard in Tehran as Israel declares state of emergency in anticipation of retaliatory missile strikes

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/28/israel-launches-attack-on-iran-as-explosions-heard-in-tehran

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CreamolaFoam26 · 01/03/2026 13:45

@dapsnotplimsolls apparently parts of Bosnia are the holiday destination for people wanting a home away from home holiday.

UYN · 01/03/2026 13:47

I do wish the BBC and SKY 24hr news would take down their currently permanent 'we've killed the supreme leader of Iran' strapline.

Even if many people are glad that this person is no longer in power - the permanent strapline and showing pictures of the man alive whilst proclaiming 'we killed him' just feels like unnecessary gloating and potentially provocation.

Yes, huge superpower America killed someone with hundreds of missiles concentrated on a small area. It's not exactly difficult to do that. They should just announce the news then move on and stop patting themselves so publicly on the back. It's quite grotesque.

CreamolaFoam26 · 01/03/2026 13:51

@Twiglets1 You surely can't deny that Trump gave the Iranian leaders the opportunity to negotiate, on the nuclear issue in particular. They were given both the opportunity to negotiate and fair warning of what would happen if they didn't go into negotiations with the goal of getting a deal done quickly

Yet Bader Busaidy is on the record a day prior to this happening saying they were very close to an agreement in the peace talks. He also said on Saturday - we were very close to an agreement then Trump started dropping bombs.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 01/03/2026 13:55

SpaceRaccoon · 01/03/2026 13:43

I don't have a source, so not sure how true it is, but I've read report of Israeli drone assasinations of the Iranian riot police to facilitate conditions to over throw the regime.

That would be awesome. If Israel and the US can directly target the regime’s armed thugs things might start to move quickly.

Alas, I have my doubts about the reality of this.

1dayatatime · 01/03/2026 13:55

dapsnotplimsolls · 01/03/2026 13:40

If the leaders decide to flee - where will they go? Russia?

Maybe Zac Polanski could offer for them to come to the UK?

SpaceRaccoon · 01/03/2026 13:56

1dayatatime · 01/03/2026 13:55

Maybe Zac Polanski could offer for them to come to the UK?

Don't give him ideas!

RedTagAlan · 01/03/2026 13:57

UYN · 01/03/2026 13:47

I do wish the BBC and SKY 24hr news would take down their currently permanent 'we've killed the supreme leader of Iran' strapline.

Even if many people are glad that this person is no longer in power - the permanent strapline and showing pictures of the man alive whilst proclaiming 'we killed him' just feels like unnecessary gloating and potentially provocation.

Yes, huge superpower America killed someone with hundreds of missiles concentrated on a small area. It's not exactly difficult to do that. They should just announce the news then move on and stop patting themselves so publicly on the back. It's quite grotesque.

Why. It's news. And there are time zones/ shift workers to consider.

And I don't see how Sky or BBC are gloating. They are just reporting the news surely.

notimagain · 01/03/2026 13:59

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 01/03/2026 13:55

That would be awesome. If Israel and the US can directly target the regime’s armed thugs things might start to move quickly.

Alas, I have my doubts about the reality of this.

I'd speculate it's technically possible...whether it's being done right now ????

KatiePricesKnickers · 01/03/2026 14:05

@UYN ”Yes, huge superpower America killed someone with hundreds of missiles concentrated on a small area.”

Hundreds! 🤣 It was two at most. Even the trees in the next yard are still standing. Plenty of photos online.

MissConductUS · 01/03/2026 14:27

notimagain · 01/03/2026 13:59

I'd speculate it's technically possible...whether it's being done right now ????

This gets into the whole covert side of the operation, about which we currently know almost nothing.

notimagain · 01/03/2026 15:11

MissConductUS · 01/03/2026 14:27

This gets into the whole covert side of the operation, about which we currently know almost nothing.

Agreed..

attichoarder · 01/03/2026 15:17

peanutbuttertoasty · 01/03/2026 09:00

Or a precedent has been set that says massacring your own people won’t go unpunished? They had clear warnings

The regime is abhorrent and appalling in my view. My point is that launching military action with the sole purpose of toppling a regime should not be the norm, if it is normalised then what next, it sends out the message that this action is acceptable.

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:07

CreamolaFoam26 · 01/03/2026 13:51

@Twiglets1 You surely can't deny that Trump gave the Iranian leaders the opportunity to negotiate, on the nuclear issue in particular. They were given both the opportunity to negotiate and fair warning of what would happen if they didn't go into negotiations with the goal of getting a deal done quickly

Yet Bader Busaidy is on the record a day prior to this happening saying they were very close to an agreement in the peace talks. He also said on Saturday - we were very close to an agreement then Trump started dropping bombs.

That was what he said but I don't know why I should be expected to necessarily believe that he was speaking from a completely neutral position.

The reality is - Iran were under big time pressure to agree a deal and they didn't agree a deal. Given the US military build up in the region, there was a clear threat that Iran chose to ignore beyond what was sensible.

“Curious to know why we do not capitulate? Because we are IRANIAN,” Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi wrote after US envoy Steve Witkoff said President Donald Trump was wondering why Tehran hadn’t yielded to American pressure over its nuclear program.

edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/middleeast/trump-iran-capitulated-reasons-intl

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RedTagAlan · 01/03/2026 16:26

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:07

That was what he said but I don't know why I should be expected to necessarily believe that he was speaking from a completely neutral position.

The reality is - Iran were under big time pressure to agree a deal and they didn't agree a deal. Given the US military build up in the region, there was a clear threat that Iran chose to ignore beyond what was sensible.

“Curious to know why we do not capitulate? Because we are IRANIAN,” Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi wrote after US envoy Steve Witkoff said President Donald Trump was wondering why Tehran hadn’t yielded to American pressure over its nuclear program.

edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/middleeast/trump-iran-capitulated-reasons-intl

There was a deal remember. Trump version 1 withdrew from it.

I remember Boris, when he was Foreign Minister, going to the US to plead with Trump not to withdraw. Trump refused to see him, and Boris had to go on Fox news to try get his message to him.

Trump cancelled the deal.. because Obama.

jcpoawhatyouneedto_know.pdf (archives.gov)

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/sites/default/files/docs/jcpoa_what_you_need_to_know.pdf

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:31

We’re talking about this round of negotiations @RedTagAlan not previous ones years ago.

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CreamolaFoam26 · 01/03/2026 16:32

That was what he said but I don't know why I should be expected to necessarily believe that he was speaking from a completely neutral position

Then surely the same can be said about anyone with any skin in the game. It doesn’t just work one way.

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:37

CreamolaFoam26 · 01/03/2026 16:32

That was what he said but I don't know why I should be expected to necessarily believe that he was speaking from a completely neutral position

Then surely the same can be said about anyone with any skin in the game. It doesn’t just work one way.

Maybe so but I'm telling you I don't believe this individual's version of events or see why I should be expected to.

A deal wasn't done and Iran were still talking tough, failing to understand they were not in a strong bargaining position. That is a mindset I have seen elsewhere with Hamas who they bankrolled.

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Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:43

The attack that killed Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei came not in the middle of the night, as might have been expected, but in the middle of the morning.

That was because the US and Israel decided to take advantage of a piece of crucial intelligence that had arrived hours before.

For months, they had been watching for a moment of opportunity when senior Iranian figures might be meeting and they learnt Khamenei was going to be at a compound in central Tehran on Saturday morning.

They also had a fix on the location of other senior military and intelligence figures meeting at the same time.

For months the US and Israel had been tracking the supreme leader's movements. The exact methods they used are secret although US President Donald Trump in a social media post did hint at them.

"He was unable to avoid our intelligence and highly sophisticated tracking systems."

This could have been a human source reporting back but it may be more likely to be technical tracking of Iranian individuals.

In this case the intelligence, the New York Times says, external, came from the CIA but was passed on to Israel to carry out the actual strike.

The signs are that there is a division of labour with Israel focusing on strikes to hit leadership targets and the US more on military targets.

Crucially the intelligence provided enough forward notice of the supreme leader's movements and those of other officials to be able to plan an attack using jets which could fire long-range missiles.

Rather than a single decapitation strike, the plan was for this attack to signal the launch of a wider campaign and it was moved forward to take advantage of the window of opportunity.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c86y5540vnno

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RedTagAlan · 01/03/2026 17:02

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:31

We’re talking about this round of negotiations @RedTagAlan not previous ones years ago.

It is surely worth mentioning that there was a deal. Between Iran, the UN perm security members plus the EU, and it was Trump that withdrew ? You do not think that is worth a mention?

SpaceRaccoon · 01/03/2026 17:03

Rumours that the new Ayatollah is dead already. A record if so.

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 17:06

RedTagAlan · 01/03/2026 17:02

It is surely worth mentioning that there was a deal. Between Iran, the UN perm security members plus the EU, and it was Trump that withdrew ? You do not think that is worth a mention?

No because we're talking about this round of negotiations.

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Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 17:07

SpaceRaccoon · 01/03/2026 17:03

Rumours that the new Ayatollah is dead already. A record if so.

That would be fast work indeed.

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Stirabout · 01/03/2026 17:10

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 16:31

We’re talking about this round of negotiations @RedTagAlan not previous ones years ago.

The point is Trump has form for this behaviour
He gets a deal and renages on it
He's near a deal ( now )
and along with Netanyahu decides to start a war and then his administration change the story over the deal ….

Trumps word is not to be trusted.
Trump and his administration suddenly denying a deal having previously declared it is typical of his lies

Stirabout · 01/03/2026 17:12

Twiglets1 · 01/03/2026 17:06

No because we're talking about this round of negotiations.

History is relevant

Stirabout · 01/03/2026 17:16

RedTagAlan · 01/03/2026 16:26

There was a deal remember. Trump version 1 withdrew from it.

I remember Boris, when he was Foreign Minister, going to the US to plead with Trump not to withdraw. Trump refused to see him, and Boris had to go on Fox news to try get his message to him.

Trump cancelled the deal.. because Obama.

jcpoawhatyouneedto_know.pdf (archives.gov)

Agree
plus of course the talks recently had made progress

with further talks planned to get into more detail this week

and then come the bombs
Another deal blown out of the water

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