US moves nuclear-powered warship to Middle East

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The US has moved one of its most powerful warships to the Middle East amid rising tensions with Iran over the killing of protesters, the Pentagon has said.

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and its strike group have moved west from the Indo-Pacific region, satellite data from Copernicus shows. It includes fighter jets, guided missile destroyers and an attack submarine.

Sources told The Hill that the movement of the ship to the Middle East would take around a week, with Washington continuing to threaten strikes on Tehran over its brutal crackdown on protests.

Trump's envoy to the UN, Mike Waltz, insisted “all options are on the table” during an emergency Security Council meeting to discuss the Iran crisis. The US also warned Tehran’s leadership that any further killing will have “grave consequences”.

So I wonder - is Trump really prepared to keep out of the uprising in Iran despite saying that help is on the way? Or is he just stalling for time?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-trump-military-action-protests-latest-news-b2901654.html

No I can’t and I don’t know if they are. If you know they are not, please enlighten me.

Exactly. There are thousands, tens of thousands of people seemingly ready to not just protest, but to sacrifice their lives in Iran right now, in their fight against the regime.
I don’t understand how someone can just shrug it off with “well, maybe they’re just a minority”.

An argument could be made that the current regime are puppet dictators.

If the agenda is to stabilize the whole of the Middle East by assisting within the removal of the Islamic Fundamentalist government of Iran, then great.

If the US invaded Britain, removed Starmer and put Farage in power, there would be thousands dancing in the streets. If they invaded and removed Farage, there would be thousands dancing in the street. Who is right?

So you support a puppet dictator who will do what the US wants, not what their people want. Very colonial of you.

Of whom. Who are the puppet masters?

How do you know it’s going to be a puppet dictator? You keep saying it as if it were a given.

Think what you want about Starmer or Farage but neither are autocrats who are responsible for the deaths of thousands if not thousands of protesters and the extreme systematic persecution of women and minority groups.

If Farage had ordered to kill thousands of people protesting against his regime and was subsequently removed, then the people celebrating his removal would probably have a point.

I was sitting with a bunch of Iranians the other day and this exact question came up so I’m going to give you the exact same answer that one of them said. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it’s a duck.

That answer doesn’t explain anything though 🤷‍♀️

And yet a nuclear warship

I'm confused about why the focus is on an aircraft carrier's propulsion system. Rather than burning oil for energy, they use a small nuclear reactor to generate electricity, which powers the ship and its engines. All American aircraft carriers are built this way, as are all of their submarines. This hardly makes them remarkable. It's been this way since the 1960's.

They’re actually theocrats, not autocrats. You need to look at the board of peace for that. So tell me, is your desire for the US to overthrow the regime because you care about the Iranian people or is it because you want to see a friendly to Israel government in Iran.

You asked why I thought he would be a puppet dictator. All his speeches are appeasement to US interests and not about what the Iranian people may want. He’s not trusted. We are talking about Pahlavi I assume.

Were none of you concerned with the violence and oppression occurring? Just focusing on this

Absolutely. Everyone wants the clerics gone but not replaced by Pahlavi. The consensus is power should go to the Parliament with elections called within months. This would require support of the military but at the moment there is no sign of the military defecting.

So someone you spoke to thinks Pahlavi would be a dictator and now you keep repeating it as fact.

Not someone. Many people. Even people who have family and friends in Iran say the same.

How do you think the people in Iran should get out of their situation?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cly5pd459gko

Trump warns Iran 'time is running out' for nuclear deal as US military builds up in Gulf

Because most people wouldn’t know what was meant if the headline read “CSG-3 heads for Middle East”.

i agree, every single one of their carriers and SSBN’s has been nuclear powered since the 60s, it’s not remarkable, but saying “nuclear powered” makes people think “big and powerful.”

Which it is- the air wing of a full CSG is larger than many countries entire air force, and in terms of technical/firepower superiority is greater than the air power of all but the largest air forces in the world. It is a tremendous amount of force projection, greater than the aerial capacity of about 95% of nations singly. Not to mention the AEGIS destroyers, assault subs and everything else that rides along with it.

I agree that it can feel over egged, however in this case it’s actually relatively accurate as reporting goes, because anyone who reads that will think “a powerful naval force is going to the ME”- which is the case.

As I have said. I actually don’t know what the majority of 90 million people want. I might know what my circle of family and friends want. If the numbers are in their favour, a revolution will be successful but if not, it won’t. The point is, foreign intervention to enforce a comprador monarch on them is not the answer, for them.

And those who do want to end the oppression how can they?

You seem focussed on anything bar the violence they are suffering.

Sorry, can you point me to exactly where I expressed a desire for the US to overthrow the regime?