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Conflict in the Middle East

US moves nuclear-powered warship to Middle East

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Twiglets1 · 16/01/2026 13:26

The US has moved one of its most powerful warships to the Middle East amid rising tensions with Iran over the killing of protesters, the Pentagon has said.

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and its strike group have moved west from the Indo-Pacific region, satellite data from Copernicus shows. It includes fighter jets, guided missile destroyers and an attack submarine.

Sources told The Hill that the movement of the ship to the Middle East would take around a week, with Washington continuing to threaten strikes on Tehran over its brutal crackdown on protests.

Trump's envoy to the UN, Mike Waltz, insisted “all options are on the table” during an emergency Security Council meeting to discuss the Iran crisis. The US also warned Tehran’s leadership that any further killing will have “grave consequences”.

So I wonder - is Trump really prepared to keep out of the uprising in Iran despite saying that help is on the way? Or is he just stalling for time?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-trump-military-action-protests-latest-news-b2901654.html

Iran protests live: US deploys nuclear warship to Middle East amid unrest in Tehran

The USS Abraham Lincoln aircraft carrier and its strike group have moved from the Indo-Pacific region

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-trump-military-action-protests-latest-news-b2901654.html

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MushMonster · 28/01/2026 07:48

Hopefully UK troops (and the rest of the world) will stay home having a cuppa with biscuits, far away from whatever frontline Trump is manouvering. We would not want Trump being wrong about the bullshit he spouts out, would we? Same applies to his dear JD Vance and his random country.....

notimagain · 28/01/2026 07:56

For context: I Don't want to dupe in full a post I've made elsewhere but a US carrier in the Gulf region has been routine for multiple years for multiple reasons

The USS Abraham Lincoln arriving plugs a short term gap in that coverage caused by other events.

It may be a sign the US are planning a move against Iran, it might not.....

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 08:02

notimagain · 28/01/2026 07:56

For context: I Don't want to dupe in full a post I've made elsewhere but a US carrier in the Gulf region has been routine for multiple years for multiple reasons

The USS Abraham Lincoln arriving plugs a short term gap in that coverage caused by other events.

It may be a sign the US are planning a move against Iran, it might not.....

It keeps everyone guessing which is what Trump likes to do.

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quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2026 10:00

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 08:02

It keeps everyone guessing which is what Trump likes to do.

Seems that way. Interesting times 😶

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 10:48

quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2026 10:00

Seems that way. Interesting times 😶

Interesting times?? That is not how I would describe it. No one actually knows whether Iran has developed nuclear weapons or not. Intelligence sources have not confirmed they have but they have other research facilities which were not damaged like Pickaxe mountain which has only recently been identified. No test has been detected in Iran but as the spokesman for the IAEA said, they have all the ingredients to create nuclear weapons, we just don’t know if they have baked the cake yet. Interesting times is definitely not how I would describe it. Bloody worrying more like.

Westfacing · 28/01/2026 10:56

quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2026 10:00

Seems that way. Interesting times 😶

Interesting times indeed - anything that puts the wind up the Iranian regime is OK by me.

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 11:27

By saying it’s an exercise, the US/allies can gather everything they need nearby, if they decide to attack.

If mumsnet knows about Pickaxe Mountain, then the US and Israel would have known about for ages. Maybe that’s next on the agenda?

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 11:51

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 11:27

By saying it’s an exercise, the US/allies can gather everything they need nearby, if they decide to attack.

If mumsnet knows about Pickaxe Mountain, then the US and Israel would have known about for ages. Maybe that’s next on the agenda?

You are absolutely right but while attention was on Fordow, there was no mention of Pickaxe mountain so I’m not sure you could say for ages. How many possible sites are there that no one knows about. The spy game is a funny old thing. Sometimes you let information get to your enemies in order to hide something else. In WWII, Britain sacrificed hundreds of it’s own soldiers in order to not let the Germans know we had cracked Enigma.

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 12:02

@RedSongBird you seem to be implying we should be tiptoeing around Iran in case we infuriate them?

If they have any nuclear capability it needs to be eliminated one way or the other. It’s an Islamist Fundamentalist ran country (at the moment).
They would happily sacrifice millions of Iranian lives to get one nuclear missile fired at Israel.
Just like they/Hamas have been happy to let the people of Gaza suffer for their campaign against Israel.

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 12:21

The Telegraph have also reported today that the Abraham Lincoln and her strike group have just arrived in the vicinity of Iran.

And there’s more. C-17 Globemaster transports and KC-135 tankers have been relocating from bases in the US and UK to key sites such as Al Udeid in Qatar and Muwaffaq Salti in Jordan, transporting advanced defensive systems, including THAAD and Patriot air-defence missile units to protect allied positions. Indicators pointing to imminent action such as aircraft transponders going dark during flights and the positioning of refuelling assets in Europe have been observed.

Britain appears to be preparing to join in, although possibly only defensively. The Royal Air Force has moved four Typhoon jets to Al Udeid and the nuclear powered attack submarine HMS Anson left Gibraltar last week heading eastwards, having reportedly loaded TLAMs during her visit to the Rock. Anson is actually headed for Australia for a spell operating out of Perth as part of the Australia-UK-US Aukus alliance: but she is earlier on that task than anyone was expecting, and it’s quite possible that she might pause on her way to join in the apparently imminent Iran operations.

With the Iranian nuclear programme thoroughly dealt with during Operation Midnight Hammer last June, it would seem as though this time the goal might be to create the conditions for regime change in Iran. The ongoing protests have severely undermined the mullahs’ authority, creating an environment where targeted military action could perhaps topple the government without any ground invasion.

The US and its allies will probably seek to undermine Iran’s economic foundations, exploiting existing fissures, whilst striving to avoid widespread civilian casualties. This could mean strikes on key energy infrastructure, including terminals at Kharg Island and Bandar Abbas, and refineries in Abadan.

Iranian air defences proved largely ineffective against the US and Israelis last year, but they will probably still need to be re-suppressed if non-Stealthy aircraft are to enter hostile airspace. Following initial airstrikes, it’s not inconceivable that there will be small special forces deployments into places like the nuclear site at Fordow – the opportunity to do eyes-on battle damage assessment post last June might be too good to pass up. If regime change is indeed the aim, broader measures such as increased sanctions, cyber disruptions, and support for internal proxies would all be employed, aiming to exacerbate economic pressures and amplify dissent.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/01/28/uss-abraham-lincoln-carrier-iran-trump-protests/

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RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 12:41

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 12:02

@RedSongBird you seem to be implying we should be tiptoeing around Iran in case we infuriate them?

If they have any nuclear capability it needs to be eliminated one way or the other. It’s an Islamist Fundamentalist ran country (at the moment).
They would happily sacrifice millions of Iranian lives to get one nuclear missile fired at Israel.
Just like they/Hamas have been happy to let the people of Gaza suffer for their campaign against Israel.

The fact that the US and Israel have the unbelievable audacity to think they have the right to tell “any” country that they shouldn’t have nuclear weapons is so hypocritical it is laughable.

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 13:29

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 12:41

The fact that the US and Israel have the unbelievable audacity to think they have the right to tell “any” country that they shouldn’t have nuclear weapons is so hypocritical it is laughable.

It’s laughable you have this opinion when the only reason Iran is trying to build a bomb is for an unprovoked attack on Israel.
The other nuclear powers have them for defensive purposes.

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 13:39

KatiePricesKnickers · 28/01/2026 13:29

It’s laughable you have this opinion when the only reason Iran is trying to build a bomb is for an unprovoked attack on Israel.
The other nuclear powers have them for defensive purposes.

How many times has Iran, even with this regime, attacked Israel in the past without provocation compared to how many times has Israel attacked Iran? You have no idea what Iran wants to do and according to the IAEA, they were showing no interest in acquiring weapons, until they were attacked. Now I’m sure they want to/have done! Hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians might disagree with you about purely for self defence.

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 14:11

Defending the Iranian regime must be a lonely club to belong to on MN right now.

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quantumbutterfly · 28/01/2026 14:12

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 13:39

How many times has Iran, even with this regime, attacked Israel in the past without provocation compared to how many times has Israel attacked Iran? You have no idea what Iran wants to do and according to the IAEA, they were showing no interest in acquiring weapons, until they were attacked. Now I’m sure they want to/have done! Hundreds of thousands of Japanese civilians might disagree with you about purely for self defence.

'How many times has Iran, even with this regime, attacked Israel...'

I suppose it depends on whether you believe they're funding houthis, hezbollah & hamas.
I'm sure you're also aware that Iran upset Pakistan ( a nuclear power apparently) by lobbing missiles over their borders. Pakistan have signed a mutual defence treaty with Saudi. Who are the Saudis more worried about I wonder.

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 14:40

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 14:11

Defending the Iranian regime must be a lonely club to belong to on MN right now.

I dislike the Iranian regime just as much as I dislike any regime that is willing to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians just as much as I dislike false empathy towards the Iranian people as a disguise to foist a puppet dictator on them.

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 14:49

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 14:40

I dislike the Iranian regime just as much as I dislike any regime that is willing to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians just as much as I dislike false empathy towards the Iranian people as a disguise to foist a puppet dictator on them.

Really.

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inamarina · 28/01/2026 15:20

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 14:40

I dislike the Iranian regime just as much as I dislike any regime that is willing to slaughter thousands of innocent civilians just as much as I dislike false empathy towards the Iranian people as a disguise to foist a puppet dictator on them.

What do you think would be the best option for the Iranian people right now? The ones who are against the regime?

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 16:03

inamarina · 28/01/2026 15:20

What do you think would be the best option for the Iranian people right now? The ones who are against the regime?

How many are against the regime? Do you know because I don’t. Iran is a country of 90 million. What if the ones who want a change in regime is only 10% of the population.9 million. That would mean significant protests but what do you think should be done.

Bowcup · 28/01/2026 16:07

I tho k it’s trump that would be happy to sacrifice Iranians lives. What do you think a Nuke does? Only targets the bad guys?

inamarina · 28/01/2026 16:08

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 16:03

How many are against the regime? Do you know because I don’t. Iran is a country of 90 million. What if the ones who want a change in regime is only 10% of the population.9 million. That would mean significant protests but what do you think should be done.

So the other 90% are okay with a regime that’s killing protesters in their thousands?

inamarina · 28/01/2026 16:09

Bowcup · 28/01/2026 16:07

I tho k it’s trump that would be happy to sacrifice Iranians lives. What do you think a Nuke does? Only targets the bad guys?

Nukes?

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 16:10

Twiglets1 · 28/01/2026 14:49

Really.

I’m guessing nuance isn’t really your thing.

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 16:12

inamarina · 28/01/2026 16:08

So the other 90% are okay with a regime that’s killing protesters in their thousands?

I don’t know. That is the point. Since when does the US invade any other countries who are going through internal political strife? Unless, of course, they have an agenda.

EasternStandard · 28/01/2026 16:14

RedSongBird · 28/01/2026 16:03

How many are against the regime? Do you know because I don’t. Iran is a country of 90 million. What if the ones who want a change in regime is only 10% of the population.9 million. That would mean significant protests but what do you think should be done.

Why do you think Iranians would be happy with the regime? Given the violence and oppression can you expand on why you think this?

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