Israel calling Francesca Albanese a witch!?

[Everexpanding]

I understand anti semite was losing its power to silence but now Israel is calling Francesca Albanese a witch??? At a meeting of the UN?
Has the Israeli government lost it’s mind

Violent resistance to occupation is legitimate under the Geneva Convention but the legitimacy is a grey area as the rules of war should be followed. In my opinion, Hamas violated those rules on October 7 and so I do not feel it was legitimate. As to whether it was understandable, that is a matter of personal opinion. As Guterres said, October 7th did not happen in a vacuum. I will therefore clarify once more. Saying something is understandable does not mean it is legitimate.

I think I'll leave you to dance on the pinhead of your chosing.

Exactly ... sounds like nit picking to me.

They may mean different things legally but in people's hearts, is there much of a distinction between things that seem "justified" to them and those that are "legitimate"? I don't think so.

The global outrage is because Israel killed 67,000 people, 20,000 plus of whom were children

The problem is there are posters on here who think those thousands and thousands of deaths were justified “because Hamas..”. I mean it beggars belief that people will try and justify it, or blame the Palestinian civilians even, because they equate being Palestinian with being a terrorist or a terrorist supporter. So they literally can’t understand the outrage. It blows my mind.

I would say the problem on MN discussions is more people making shit up & repeating it over and over again.

So let me correct some misinformation from your post: pro Israel supporters on MN do not blame Palestinian civilians, we blame Hamas & their supporters. The majority view is sympathetic to Palestinian civilians, so we obviously don't equate being Palestinian with being a terrorist or terrorist supporter.

There are unfortunately some Palestinians who do support Hamas, but pointing out that basic fact doesn't mean we think they are all terrorists/supporters.

I would say the problem on MN discussions is more people making shit up & repeating it over and over again.

So yes, he really did call Albanese a witch and the deniers are still here circumventing a thread with the same old circuitous it was Hamas, she’s anti semitic blah. None of it washes. Here is a female academic with an extensive report ‘biased’ because it exposes war crimes and she won’t be silenced. She’s called a witch because that is the only space imaginable in his head. That is pathetic.

Not one person has denied he called Albanese a witch.

Pro Israel supporters tend to stick to facts. It’s those that dislike Israel that use hyperbole to inflame tensions further.

Really? This reaction is just a few posts into the thread.

ok... they should have waiting a bit longer to see if the story began to be posted in more reputable sources, which it did.

But still ... no one was still questioning the story once it began being reported in slightly less biased sources so there was no need for you to act as though it was still being questioned at the point you posted.

This is the ‘spell’ to which DD was referring:

Gaza Genocide: A Collective Crime

Albanese’s report is merely a presentation of facts. Thank goodness someone has the tenacity, courage and eloquence to do this.

The truth hurts.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/fancesca-albanese-press-release-28oct25/

So if you say you and those you call “we” are sympathetic to Palestinian civilians why are you not critical of the very high civilian death toll in Gaza,? why do you not recognise the oppression of Palestinian civilians by the Israeli state? Why are all valid criticisms of the Israeli state pertaining its treatment of Palestinians denied or undermined? Illegal detention, the murder of children by snipers, the torture of prisoners as documented by multiple reputable NGO’s including Israeli ones? The blatant destruction of all the infrastructure needed to support civilian life in Gaza in contravention of International law is dismissed with “but Hamas” repeatedly.

you are acting as an apologist for a state which has used starvation as a weapon of war and has daily been breaching the human rights of Palestinian civilians for decades

i did check to see if the reporting was accurate before I posted as I too found it mind blowing that a state would actually use accusations of witchcraft in the 21st century to respond to a U.N. report

I don't who you're speaking to but it would be hard to find someone on this board that all your points are applicable to so we can only assume you are arguing with an imaginary poster.

Was directed to @Twiglets1 i thought I had quoted her in the post, an error on my part

Well your post certainly isn't accurate re @Twiglets1

Pro Israel supporters tend to stick to facts.

What? Like the reuters camera which was definitely a Hamas surveillance camera because the IDF said so? And the murdered journalists who were definitely Hamas militants? Those “facts” do you mean?

I am not critical of the high civilian death toll in Gaza because I understand that civilians do get killed in wars and more so when the "soldiers" (if Hamas can even be called that as I think of them more as terrorists) hide amongst the civilian population and deliberately build tunnels/hide weapons etc in densely populated areas such as around hospitals. For the record I'm sympathetic to all civilians caught up in every war around the world now & historically, but that doesn't mean I think there should never ever be wars.

Many of the things you mention I haven't commented on so you cannot possibly know my attitude to them. I guess you are making assumptions but some are false. Better to stick to the actual topics being discussed so you know where I stand.

As @SharonEllis pointed out, you seem to be arguing with an imaginary poster so I will leave you to that.

Please feel free to reply to the other points @Twiglets1
so you are happy with 83% of the death toll being civilians because of the possible presence of Hamas, I have seen you use this argument have you ever thought about what it actually means in real terms to real humans, men, women and children?
Do you agree with the dropping of 2000lb bombs on civilians in tents and resulting carnage because possibly Hamas?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war

Not interested in debating further with someone who slings personal insults around as freely as you do @Everexpanding & puts words into people's mouths like saying I'm "happy" with civilian deaths.

what a surprise, I have never personally insulted you @Twiglets1 bar calling you out for justifying civilian deaths and trying to undermine and deflect valid criticism of the Israeli government

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Maybe read something that’s not Israeli propaganda

www.972mag.com/trump-israel-plan-divide-gaza/

Assuming this is aimed at me, you say you have never insulted me but everyone can see you doing so - calling me an "apologist", accusing me of being "happy" about civilian deaths, and suggesting all I read is Israeli propaganda.

Funnily enough, that's not how people normally talk to others when their intention is not to insult them.

You seem to be getting a bit hysterical so no - it shouldn't come as a "surprise" when people decide they have had enough of talking to you.

If you don't want people to disengage - try debating politely.