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Conflict in the Middle East

Israel calling Francesca Albanese a witch!?

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Everexpanding · 29/10/2025 16:17

I understand anti semite was losing its power to silence but now Israel is calling Francesca Albanese a witch??? At a meeting of the UN?
Has the Israeli government lost it’s mind

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Ellen2shoes · 09/11/2025 11:11

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Ellen2shoes · 09/11/2025 11:40

No, Michael Rosen the wordsmith who manages to say a lot with very few words. Unlike some.

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 11:42

@SharonEllis do you think the organisation below might have more expertise on this issue than you

The Global Voice of Journalists
The IFJ, the world's largest organisation of journalists, represents 600,000 media professionals from 187 trade unions and associations in more than 140 countries.
Established in 1926, the IFJ is the organisation that speaks for journalists within the United Nations system and within the international trade union movement.

please see below their call for Israel to be held accountable for the 248 journalists they have killed in Gaza ,
their call for accountability includes the names of all 248 journalists in case you wish to smear them all as being Hamas, they are dead so can’t reply
Also they call for international journalists to be allowed in to Gaza
https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza

War in Gaza
War in Gaza: Israel must be held accountable

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Twiglets1 · 09/11/2025 12:08

Ellen2shoes · 09/11/2025 11:40

No, Michael Rosen the wordsmith who manages to say a lot with very few words. Unlike some.

Being a wordsmith doesn't make him any more of an expert on Gaza than the people you debate with on MN so I don't know why people keep quoting him like he is some kind of expert.

@SharonEllis isn't bringing rude personal comments into the debate so there's no need for anyone else to start.

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 12:30

Everexpanding · 09/11/2025 11:42

@SharonEllis do you think the organisation below might have more expertise on this issue than you

The Global Voice of Journalists
The IFJ, the world's largest organisation of journalists, represents 600,000 media professionals from 187 trade unions and associations in more than 140 countries.
Established in 1926, the IFJ is the organisation that speaks for journalists within the United Nations system and within the international trade union movement.

please see below their call for Israel to be held accountable for the 248 journalists they have killed in Gaza ,
their call for accountability includes the names of all 248 journalists in case you wish to smear them all as being Hamas, they are dead so can’t reply
Also they call for international journalists to be allowed in to Gaza
https://www.ifj.org/war-in-gaza

War in Gaza
War in Gaza: Israel must be held accountable

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About some things, of course. But like with everything else to do with this conflict they are not immune to bias and I wouldn't take anything they say at face value. Deaths of journalists, and whether they are just journalists should of course be investigated.

Ellen2shoes · 09/11/2025 12:48

MR doesn’t claim to be an expert on Gaza so why would anyone suggest that?

But he is succinct in his observations of how the result of the ban on journalism causes people to doubt that ANY story is true, hence the conflicting versions reflected here - and ultimately allowing atrocities to continue.

SameOldHill · 09/11/2025 16:11

SharonEllis · 09/11/2025 12:30

About some things, of course. But like with everything else to do with this conflict they are not immune to bias and I wouldn't take anything they say at face value. Deaths of journalists, and whether they are just journalists should of course be investigated.

But that’s the point. They won’t be investigated. The IDF is constantly asked to investigate itself which is ridiculous because you’re trusting the perpetrator to investigate itself.
It’s always been a matter of kill first, investigate later.

Twiglets1 · 09/11/2025 17:26

Ellen2shoes · 09/11/2025 12:48

MR doesn’t claim to be an expert on Gaza so why would anyone suggest that?

But he is succinct in his observations of how the result of the ban on journalism causes people to doubt that ANY story is true, hence the conflicting versions reflected here - and ultimately allowing atrocities to continue.

We’re in agreement that he isn’t one. But his name does get wheeled out a lot as some kind of Gotcha which it isn’t because his opinion is no more valid than anyone else’s.

Twiglets1 · 09/11/2025 17:28

SameOldHill · 09/11/2025 16:11

But that’s the point. They won’t be investigated. The IDF is constantly asked to investigate itself which is ridiculous because you’re trusting the perpetrator to investigate itself.
It’s always been a matter of kill first, investigate later.

Who could investigate them? No one is neutral.

SameOldHill · 09/11/2025 17:45

Well the international community should obviously. But you’re right, they’re not neutral. The US has a disproportionate amount of power in the UN and the international community at large and they are, as we have seen, way too biased in favour of Israel.

Sadly, Hind Rajab, the murdered journalists and health care workers, the innocent everyday people of Gaza will never see justice.

The last two years have made a mockery of international law.

Twiglets1 · 09/11/2025 18:01

SameOldHill · 09/11/2025 17:45

Well the international community should obviously. But you’re right, they’re not neutral. The US has a disproportionate amount of power in the UN and the international community at large and they are, as we have seen, way too biased in favour of Israel.

Sadly, Hind Rajab, the murdered journalists and health care workers, the innocent everyday people of Gaza will never see justice.

The last two years have made a mockery of international law.

No one in the international community will seem unbiased to everyone either.

I agree the US are not impartial but neither are any other country it seems. That is what makes justice & truth seem like impossible concepts.

I feel like “kill first investigate later” could equally apply to Hamas except they don’t even pretend they will investigate because killings are always justified against Jews/Israelis in their mind.

Ellen2shoes · 19/11/2025 22:46

Albanese has been sanctioned for speaking out and has now actually been branded a witch. Could there be a more modern day public example of a ‘a witch hunt’? And this is supposed to be civilisation?

MissyB1 · 20/11/2025 11:39

Ellen2shoes · 19/11/2025 22:46

Albanese has been sanctioned for speaking out and has now actually been branded a witch. Could there be a more modern day public example of a ‘a witch hunt’? And this is supposed to be civilisation?

Proof that It’s still dangerous to upset “the powers that be” even in 2025 unfortunately.

Everexpanding · 20/11/2025 14:09

Further info on the sanctions imposed on Francesca Albanese
See below excerpt from statement:

“Sanctioning the Special Rapporteur for fulfilling this responsibility, which is mandated by the Human Rights Council, is a direct attack on the integrity of the UN human rights system. These measures violate international law, including the 1946 Convention on the Privileges and Immunities of the United Nations. The 1946 Convention accords UN experts such privileges and immunities as are necessary for the independent exercise of their functions. Violating this framework sends a dangerous message, threatens the independence of the Special Procedures system and has a chilling effect on global human rights advocacy. States that disagree with the views of UN experts should constructively engage with them through established processes of diplomatic dialogue.

The targeting of the Special Rapporteur cannot be separated from the egregious international crimes and human rights abuses being perpetrated against Palestinians and the longstanding efforts to delegitimise those who defend their rights. The prejudice and threats faced by human rights defenders – whether they are scholars, civil society actors, UN officials or experts – reflect a broader strategy of silencing dissent and shielding abusive power structures from scrutiny.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/statements/2025/08/us-sanctions-special-rapporteur-francesca-albanese-threaten-human-rights-system

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