Israelis should be welcome in Birmingham

[mids2019]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15206171/Parts-Birmingham-no-area-Jews-says-Ed-Miliband-ministers-scramble-allow-Israeli-fans-attend-Aston-Villa-football-match.html

The government need to act on this. West Midlands police have more than enough man power to police a football match with at most 1000 away fans. I watched West Midlands politics today and there was a politician brazenly saying part of the reason for effectively banning the Tel Aviv fans was they there was 'a moral point about Gaza'. We cannot have local councillors, community leaders and MPs agitating for the anti Semitic ban of fans of one of Israel's premier football teams.

We have to face reality want know that a lot of local residents are anti Israel and have taken this opportunity for VIlla Park to become a no go area for Jews.

Let's hope the decision is overturned and quickly.

Ajax are playing Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on Wednesday - are Ajax fans banned from London?

https://www.chelseafc.com/en/matches/mens-fixtures-and-results

Maccabi Tel Aviv say in a statement that they will "decline any allocation offered on behalf of away fans" for next month's Europa League match against Aston Villa at Villa Park, adding that "the wellbeing and safety of our fans is paramount."

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-tel-aviv-fans-will-not-be-able-to-buy-tickets-to-aston-villa-match-13454141

Looks like they can't go regardless @mids2019

Too many racist thugs in the MTA fanbase who can't be expected to behave. So even if the police overturn their decision, they still won't be able to go.

Maccabi Tel Aviv said on Monday evening the club believed "football should be about bringing people together not driving them apart" and that it had "been working tirelessly to stamp out racism within the more extreme elements of our fan base".

I read the fans behaved terribly in a recent game in Israel too.

it had "been working tirelessly to stamp out racism within the more extreme elements of our fan base".

We have also been working tirelessly to stamp out racism within the more extreme elements of our fan base. Unfortunately, those issues are not restricted to Israeli football, and they are problems the sport has been grappling worldwide including in the UK...

"It is clear, that various entrenched groups seek to malign the Maccabi Tel Aviv fan base, most of whom have no truck with racism or hooliganism of any kind, and are exploiting isolated incidents for their own social and political ends. The latest example is by people who have rushed to attribute to our fans the decision of the Tel Aviv police to cancel our derby match yesterday. It was not. It is easier to believe than to enquire especially when it suites an agenda.

"Our fans regularly travel all over Europe without incident and to suggest that the reason our fans cannot be allowed to travel is due to their behavior is an attempt to distort reality and to excuse the real underlying reasons for the decision to ban our fans. Our fans, the Jewish community know all too well this tactic and all are too familiar with where it can lead.

"We are also concerned about the intervention of divisive figures who do not represent the values of our Club. We condemn all abhorrent views that have no place in football.

"As a result of the hate-filled falsehoods, a toxic atmosphere has been created which makes the safety of our fans wishing to attend very much in doubt.

Inflammatory rhetoric, trafficking in half-truths is never healthy, but in this particular case the remarks being generated are of the most concerning variety. Not for Maccabi Tel Aviv or football, but for the sake of society and its underlying values, maybe the agendas involved here should be looked at more closely.

They’re not coming now anyway. Looks like they’ve recognised their own problems.

Shame for every other Jewish or Israeli fan who’d never behave that way though.

They know that if they turn up, the fans will embarrass themselves.

Well they are still able to go to the match?

Did they or did they not attack Israeli police within the last few days? MTA fan base has many thuggish elements and the club has acknowledged this.

This seems to be the concern.

That is why clubs and supporter groups work so hard to get rid of the hooligan element.

Nobody wants a return of the 1980's

Did they or did they not attack Israeli police within the last few days?

No idea - the fans wearing red support a different team;

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/oct/19/tel-aviv-football-derby-between-hapoel-and-maccabi-called-off-after-rioting

BM is an Israeli living in Israel who often translates Hebrew to English and reports on what's happening in Israel:
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https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1855173606273151436
"The Rape Song"

Here's another Maccabi Tel Aviv fan song, from the last time Maccabi Tel Aviv fans visited The Netherlands. It's a hate song against the team's biggest rival in Israel, Hapoel Tel Aviv (who's considered a "leftist" team).

The name of the song, according to the Maccabipedia fan website, is "The Rape Song" and the lyrics are really fucked up:
"You act like you're so radical
Singing songs about the holocaust
And think it's cool to renounce the state
You're the Arabs' whres
We are ashamed of you
At the end of the day, Gate 5
We will fck you
We will f*ck you
And then we will drink your blood
In the town's square we will hang every Communist who comes here
We will take your girls who love to party
When we'll rape them we will shout
Today is death, Hapoel
Today is death, Hapoel"

So in your opinion then it was nothing to do with anti semitism and that the Amsterdam Mayor, the Dutch PM and the Dutch King were all lying then when they condemned the anti semitism violence at the game against Ajax in Amsterdam?

BM is also pro-Hamas. But you obviously don't care given how often you post this snd similar twitter accounts as though we are all supposed to give a shit what they have to say.

"I really hate you" is an apt username.

BelleHathor
BM is an Israeli living in Israel who often translates Hebrew to English and reports on what's happening in Israel

Whoever he is, he doesn't seem a very reliable source of information. Prone to exaggeration going by this;

Israeli propagandists keep denying the torture Greta and other flotilla activists went through inside Israel's concentration camps...

Can you translate Hebrew? Are the translations correct or have they been wrongly translated?

You can keep saying this but all it shows is that you’re uninformed.

The facts of it are MTA fans went to Amsterdam, started violence and then more violence ensued. MYA fans were then banned from the Aston Villa match, and as if to prove that it was the right decision, they decided to create a threat to life at their derby match this weekend.

Yes, they faced antisemitism in Amsterdam, which is wrong. But it doesn’t give them the right to be violent and create a threat to life.

I saw this.

"As a result of the hate filled falsehoods, a toxic atmosphere has been created which makes the safety of our fans wishing to attend very much in doubt. Inflammatory rhetoric "trafficking in half truths is never healthy, but in this particular case the remarks being generated are of the most concerning variety.... "

Concerning indeed for our society.

“Hate filled falsehoods”

You’re being gaslighted. We’ve all seen the footage of the MTA fans being incredibly violent.

Interesting

The authorities there recognised anti semitism and apologised. MN users don't appear able to recognise it even when authorities have agreed it was there and apologise. Interesting

I’ve recognised it.

But for some reason you think the antisemitism that occurred means the MTA fans have a right to be as violent as they want? These people ran through the streets chanting “death to Arabs”, scaled buildings to tear down flags and stole equipment and scaffolding pipes from building sites to use as weapons. Why do you think that’s okay?