Hamas are primitive thugs

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And I hope they are all killed. Poor Palestinian people forced to live under their disgusting rule. Resistance is met with execution. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

Difficult when Hamas are killing people who oppose them and their supporters cheer them on.

An international Arab led peace keeping force is badly needed to avoid slaughter by Hamas of anyone they consider a challenge to them continuing in power.

I really dont think they will. Many deluded believe them to be freedom fighters, even though they are clearly now slaughtering fellow Palestinians on the streets for opposition of their ideas. Typical islamist extremists, although these get claps and cheers from many gullible idiots. They even get songs praising their intifada actions

Do they want to?

I dont think they are gullible idiots in Palestine. The ones cheering are supportive of Hamas and their goals. The surrounding Arab states know this. They have enough trouble with Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood and Hezbollah as it is, snd have had in the past when they have tried to help Palestinians.
The gullible idiots are the Western pro Palestine supportes mourning the deaths of people killed after the ceasefire, either not knowing that they were killed by Hamas/ other Palestinians or claiming it is Mossad pretending to be Hamas or whatever pretzels they are tying themselves up in.

I can almost feel the glee in people's voices leaping off the page.

No, of course they shouldn't be rounding up an executing anyone. Let's not pretend that this wasn't anticipated and encouraged.

Trump has specifically said Hamas can keep their weapons for now and try to get order over the gangs. Re the killings, he's 'not too bothered about that', because they killed 'bad people'. He verges on praise for them for it, certainly no criticism.

Meanwhile, the gangs that Hamas is targeting (which again they've got the green light to do from Trump!) are literally funded and is armed by Israel.

Opposing militias are being encouraged, sometimes funded, and Israel sits back and watches the inevitable carnage. Unity is a Palestinian people, even unity within Gaza, is a huge risk for Israel right now because it furthers the likelihood of two-state solution. That's why the one individual who might unite the Palestinians is still stuck in prison, and why Israel tend to blind eye to an even encouraged Hamas in the past.

Unfortunately Hamas and the gangs are playing right into their puppet Masters plan, driven on by hate, rather than looking at a bigger picture, as to why Israel and its closest ally are encouraging both sides.

@Alittlefeedbackwouldbenice it's laughable you saying "unity within Gaza is a huge risk for Israel right now".

Zero chance of that, mate! And no its not Israel's fault what's happening since they stepped back.

‘Israel made me do it’

There is nothing Hamas could do that wouldn’t be Israel’s fault.

I am pessimistic about the whole situation. Hamas are an intractable problem. They need to go but the Palestinians either don’t want them to go or do want them to go but can’t make them. How do the international players in this situation get rid of them?

So little here on the agency and actions of Hamas. It’s hard if you’re committed to looking to Israel and Trump every time.

How indeed. They can’t really and who would go in to rebuild with Hamas in control?

Totally agree with this, to recognise Palestine as a state (and what a state) given who heads up Gaza at the moment is a really poor, foolish, ill thought out position, which will pay off badly in years to come.

Not sure where you’re getting your info about Trump saying Hamas to keep their weapons @alittlefeedbackwouldbenice.

Hamas are not being made to do anything by Isreal or anyone wrt these executions or using children as shields or spending aid money on weapons and tunnels or taking control of aid food and selling it on at vastly inflated prices. They are very capable and are doing all this all the time. Not victims at all.

I hope they are all got rid off. Vile.

They can do it - especially now they no longer have to worry about the live Israel hostages - but whether they will be able to do it with how the world would react to more bloodshed by a legitimate army is uncertain.

No one sane would be spending money on rebuilding Gaza while Hamas are still there though.

Of course yes its all Israels fault.

Sits back and watches.

Erm, it received massive condemnation when trying to not sit back and watch of course.

I'll get you the links.

Sky News says Benjamin Netanyahu has warned "all hell" will break loose if Hamas doesn't agree to disarm.

It comes after Donald Trump warned "if they [Hamas] don't disarm, we will disarm them, and it will happen quickly and perhaps violently".

All of them? The women and children?

Why should women be any different?

Children though are presumed innocent until they are old enough to decide for themselves whether to support Hamas or not.

The vast majority yes, why would you think differently and why would women be different? Women across the world support terrorist regimes and governments and extremism if thats the culture and political system they believe in

Children are brought up to believe it in and then turn into adults.

What an elaborate way to blame Israel.

With Hamas still there most wouldn't touch it.

Where are the Palestinian moderates who might run Gaza?

That's why people called for a separate group to monitor/oversee the peace plan. Although many thought that unreasonable. So currently we have Hamas killing Palestinians and apparently we are supposed to believe that all of them are 'collaborators' 🙄

You'll be waiting a long time for someone to come up with the names of Palestinian moderates who could run Gaza ...

1. Trump's view on Hamas's and the gangs.
   It's on the sky news live updates at 14.25 yesterday. You'll need to watch the embedded video.
   https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-hostages-israel-hamas-war-latest-release-palestinian-prisoners-sky-news-live-13443931

2. That took some digging. It was something from Al Jazeera's live thread on Monday. Given how far it is down, I'll just paste it

"Trump says Hamas received US approval to rearm
Trump has said the US is aware that Hamas is “rearming” in Gaza and claimed the group had been given US approval to do so “for a period of time”.

Asked by a reporter on board Air Force One before his arrival in Israel about reports that Hamas was “rearming” and instituting itself as a Palestinian police force, Trump said the group was attempting to restore order after months of war.

“They’ve been open about it, and we gave them approval for a period of time,” he said. “You have to understand – they’ve lost probably 60,000 people. That’s a lot of retribution,” he argued.

According to the Health Ministry in Gaza, Israeli attacks have killed more than 67,000 people, including more than 20,000 children.

Trump also said the US wanted to ensure returning residents could rebuild safely, describing Gaza as “literally demolished” and saying “a lot of bad things can happen” as people return.

The timeline for Hamas’s decommissioning of weapons has become one of the main sticking points within the ceasefire deal, with negotiators divided over how and when disarmament should take place."

Here is an article mentioning it.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/International/trump-implies-hamas-approval-act-police-force-period/story%3fid=126480352

3. I'm not giving any links for Israel arming the gangs as this is accepted public knowledge.

And this?

Hamas are still the in intractable problem.

Their propaganda worked well but they are a problem now for Palestinians.

Maybe Israel should step away and let others work out what to do about Hamas terrorising the place.

Its a bit of pisser that the person 'we' seem to be relying on, doesnt know his arse from his elbow and says different things at different times.