Footage shows public executions in Gaza City street

[Twiglets1]

BBC Verify: Footage has emerged showing the public executions of three men accused of being Israeli collaborators in Gaza City.

BBC Verify has verified that the location of the executions was a street outside Shifa hospital in the centre of the city, which is the focus of a major Israeli ground offensive.

Videos circulating on Sunday evening showed at least five armed and masked men, three blindfolded Palestinian men kneeling on the ground and a large crowd.

One of the armed men is heard saying: "The death sentence has been decided for all collaborators".

There are cheers before the three men are pushed to the ground and shot several times in the back of the head. The crowd then praises Hamas's armed wing, the Qassam Brigades.

A Palestinian security official from the Hamas-run Gaza government told Reuters that the executions were carried out by the "Joint Operations Room of the Palestinian resistance".

This is a rare instance in which a public execution in Gaza has been captured on video. There have been previous reports of Hamas using violence on those who dissent. In May, Hamas-led groups reportedly executed four Palestinians for looting aid trucks.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c99g3p52k15o

I think its incredibly important for some people that this is genocide rather than 'just' a horrific war because of the need to justify the way they exceptionalise Israel.

I’m not keen to hear that healthy people are dying of starvation, that is an offensive comment.

I’m more relieved that the widespread famine in Gaza appears not to have happened. Though I would never deny that there is widespread food insecurity, hunger and malnutrition in Gaza - or that some vulnerable individuals have died from lack of access to high quality or specialist food.

I mean this conflict stays front and centre due in part to the amount of content it generates. I thought that was your point, sorry if I misunderstood.

It disturbs me that this content is something Hamas uses to further their cause. The suffering of their own has value to them in this way.

Are you seriously relieved that one in three kids haven’t had a meal in 24 hours?

I presume the point is that this conflict is generating more content than others of significant suffering where the West also has involvement, that hasn't happened in a vacuum, and that the reasons why it's happened are important.

That is according to the UN agency for Palestinian refugees.

I am not “relieved” if one in three young children haven’t had a meal in 24 hours as the report said. Why would I be as a mother myself?

I have already stated my position which is that I am offended by the suggestion that I don’t care about people dying of starvation. I don’t deny that there is widespread food insecurity, hunger and malnutrition in Gaza. Or that some vulnerable individuals have died as a result of this.

I merely observe that the media are no longer talking about widespread famine in Gaza. Sorry if that observation offends you. It certainly doesn’t mean that I want a widespread famine in Gaza, that’s ridiculous.

I long for the day which will never come when anyone expressing any support for Israel on MN is not accused of gloating over the deliberate murder of children.

I guess it fills the gap where a coherent argument might have been.

But the suffering is real. Your first thought when you see the amputated children, the widespread destruction on homes and the sheer desperation now of Gazan’s is should be how do we stop this.

What on earth do you think that Netanyahu’s props and gimmicks were about? He was trying to grab the world’s attention

I know the suffering is real. I know the grief is real. I don't care if a child has extra needs or what, no child should be short of food when there is food plenty on the other side of the line. I dont doubt for a moment the agony and hopelessness of losing 1, 2, 3 children to bombs. My first thought is absolutely this must be stopped.

My immediate next thought is that this suffering is currency for Hamas. That they could stop it, but chose not to. Even Abbas said in his statements that the PNA is ready to take over. That disturbs me also. Along with the suffering- its Hamas' use of this suffering to the detriment of their own.

It is curious who is driving the narrative and how.

The glee I saw amongst some people immediately after 7/10 was a complete dehumanisation of Israelis and then that was extended to Jewish people. There's a lot of discontent being leveraged.
Ideologies are always warring for supremacy, the world population has never been so large. it's easy to be confident you're right when you're only being shown part of the picture and that really depends on the source of information. No such thing as an objective source where human interactions are involved.

I've protested outside a lot of embassies in my life, marched, and boycotted more than one country. So not fixated on Israel. But what I'm seeing Israel doing is clearly genocide. The west is supporting it. It deserves all the attention it is getting and more. We need to stop arming them. Boycott them. And try the key actors for war crimes.

Yes don’t mention the children @Beachtastic

Unfortunately they are bearing the brunt of this war. Defending the conflict or minimising and dismissing the suffering looks heartless.

It does look exceptionally heartless when somebody says I know children are hungry but they aren’t hungry enough for me to care.

But @Twiglets1 there seems to be more food available commercially actually. But no the food situation hasn’t changed enough to avert famine. The story has just moved on.

I think as mum's we ought to be able to recognise emotional manipulation when we see it.

Nobody has said that. Really you aren't convincing anyone.

Exactly. Not one child will have been fed by everyone piling in to a discussion board to declare how much they care. Its performative nonsense.

Is it that you don’t believe that Gaza has the highest rate of amputees in the world and thousands of children on the brink of starvation? Or is it that you see this has an unfortunate side effect of a just war?

"Don't mention the children"

What I keep seeing on MN is hand-wringing about the children being deliberately tortured and murdered by evil Israel. This is such a skewed perspective that I am wary of lending my voice to it. Given Hamas's manipulation of social media, MN would be a rather obvious target for this sort of propaganda.

Exactly @Beachtastic abd @PaxAeterna twists what everyone says. Its a waste of time.

of course ... our children were experts in it by primary school 😂

Would that be an appeal to my emotions?
On another thread @Twiglets1 has copied a 'day after' plan which looks like a solution, if the will to coexist can be persuaded.
I wonder what Iran will do. I also note that many fortunes were made in this business but when oligarchs outlived their usefulness in Russia they became quite accident prone.

It does look exceptionally heartless when somebody says I know children are hungry but they aren’t hungry enough for me to care.

Wow, what monster said that??

Let me know & I'll report them.

If you find yourself unwilling to condemn the death of children then you have lost some part of your humanity. I honestly believe that. I’m not trying to change anyone’s mind.

@quantumbutterfly - no I’m genuinely interested in why. There seem to be people that don’t believe it which I suppose is better then the people who believe it but defend it.

I’m here on this board because I’m fascinated and horrified that views like this exist. I’m literally about to run out the door to go to a different protest right now. Handwringing about children again, @Beachtastic wouldn’t like it.

I don’t think we are in disagreement @dairydebris

Yes I did and just in case you're interested in the 21 point peace plan that could even end this war, here is a link for you @PaxAeterna

www.mumsnet.com/talk/conflict-in-the-middle-east/5416333-trumps-new-gaza-plan?page=2&reply=147422468

@PaxAeterna would be interested in your thoughts on it when you get back from your protest.

Not many people have commented on the peace plan thread from the pro Pal side but I hope I'm right in assuming we all want it.