Firstly, emotive words are perfectly reasonable to use when a lot of people are suffering. What’s going on in Gaza is deserving of emotive language. Just as what happened on 7/10 is. Horrendous acts involving pain and suffering bring on intense emotions. That’s a normal human reaction. How do you describe people being raped and killed or being starved and bombed without emotive language? The facts alone are emotive.
The equivalent would be Wales storming the border with England and killing roughly 15,000 people and kidnapping thousands more. What would you want the UK government to do? I certainly wouldn’t condone dropping tonnes of bombs on all Welsh people, flattening Wales or agree with starving them. Would you? If anything, I would worry that would aid whatever Welsh radicalism had occurred rather than stop it. I’d also be interested in why there was so much hatred in Wales towards England. Why had this Welsh radicalism spread throughout the country and caused such harm to England? What had we done or not done to help control or reduce this threat?
If someone is coming for your children, are you going to do nothing because you don’t believe in killing? So what action is reasonable for the Palestinian people who have lost children (or parents) in this conflict. If Israel could retaliate for the collective trauma of 7/10, what is reasonable retaliation for Palestinian civilians who have been displaced for potentially 2+ years, lost their homes, lost their access to food and medical care? How do you think this mentality or reasoning feeds terrorism rather than stops it?
When one side uses civilian infrastructure as part of their war campaign, they are the ones who have militarised that infrastructure. But Israel are still the ones deciding whether to bomb those places. They do so knowing that civilians will die. Do you think Hamas means that any and all tactics are justifiable because how terrible they are? Would you condone torture of a Hamas or killing a 13 year old who had been radicalised? How low do we all stoop and at what point do we become as bad as the people we are condoning?
You expect a country to provide medical supplies to the people trying to kill them? Do you differentiate between civilians and Hamas? Because people want civilians to be fed and for them to have access to medical facilities. Yes, that might mean Hamas are also fed and cared for but collective punishment isn’t acceptable and it aids terrorism/radicalism.
Hamas are terrorists so they are not looking out for any civilians - we cannot rely on them to look after anyone but themselves. We know they actively put civilians in harms way so why is it rational to say they should be looking after the civilians too. So unfair as it may seem, Israel have to act with humanity towards them. Feed them, ensure they can access medical facilities. The reason this is so important is because doing so could stop radicalisation of civilians. Showing them some humanity and respect would help slow recruitment and, in the medium to long term save Israeli lives. A lot of people seem to think that Hamas are going to be totally wiped out by this war. They won’t be because terror networks aren’t geological. Hamas whether under that name or another will always be a huge threat to Israel. The key is trying to stop radicalisation and you do that by understanding why people become radicalised and controlling those conditions.
There is not starvation in Gaza - what evidence do you have of this? Because there is a lot of evidence that there is so I’m interested in what sources you have to prove your assertion and disprove the ones I have seen? Do you understand what happens when you cut off aid to a country that is heavily reliant on aid and create a deficit of food? Do you understand how telling people they’re not starving when they are might help steer people towards radicalism not away from it?
The aid distribution systems should have been in place. Why are they not getting aid to where it needs to be. Do you know why the UN isn’t distributing aid like baby formula now? Do you know who militarised and replaced the huge UN aid network (200+) with just 4 hubs (now 3)? Do you understand what a terrible precedent private companies (funded by one side in the conflict) with armed aid workers sets for future conflicts and why the UN refuses to work alongside them? Do you appreciate how dangerous this would make humanitarian work as they are no longer covered by the fairly flimsy but important cover of neutrality. Do you see why the UN might not condone more violence?
There is not starvation in Gaza - Do you know how long the start-up company (because they have no humanitarian aid experience) GHF have been opening their hubs for each day? Do you appreciate that their numbers mean they’re currently providing less than one meal a day for not even the whole population?
Gaza has more UN employees than the rest of the world has. Do you know why they are so reliant on aid rather than being autonomous? You have discussed Gaza’s reliance on aid and its infrastructure but you haven’t discussed its relationship/reliance on Israel and perhaps the difference between the world of wealthy Gazans vs the rest of the population. What limits did Israel put on Palestinian people’s lives and wellbeing in the last 2 decades and how might this have fed radicalisation rather than limited it.
Why are we being shown these pictures with the narrative that Israel is starving Gaza?
Who stopped all aid going into Gaza for months and destroyed their agricultural infrastructure? Hamas can’t get food in because they don’t control the borders and other countries are strictly limited so who does that fall on? Have you discarded all sources that say there is starvation (NGOs, foreign medics who have worked there)? Why do you not trust them? Who do you trust?
Hamas is deliberately starving its civilian population. What evidence do you have of systemic looting by Hamas? It would need to be systemic for them to be able to control the flow of food to bring on a famine and I’m yet to see evidence of systemic looting by Hamas.
Get the UN to sort their house out and deliver the aid they have. Maybe GHF could help them out by removing armed aid workers and let the experts do their job. Imperfectly, sure, but way better than GHF.
How about all the world leaders started putting pressure on Qatar and get them to do something about Hamas? Do you not think this is happening already? And what are the chances of a radical Islamist group that is willing to die for its cause surrendering or showing diplomacy or humanity. I understand everyone saying we should be pressuring Hamas to do the right thing but do the people responsible for 7/10 seem like people who can do ‘the right thing’? Israel are the only grown up in the room and have to act like it. It’s frustrating sure that they can’t play Hamas at their own game but that’s the difference between terrorists and liberal democracies. And there must be a difference.
Make Egypt open their blooming border to women and children? Are they allowed to or has Israel told them not to? Can Egypt afford to look after that many refugees? What do you know about their economy? Would you open your borders and rehome millions of people if the Israeli government were saying that they don't want them back in Gaza? Would you want 2m angry displaced people in your country and risk issues with terrorism being planned within your borders against Israel.
If Israel won’t leave afterwards then make them. genuinely interested in how you imagine making Israel leave Gaza? Would this mean more violence?
I’ve picked out a few points that stood out to me and asked some questions as you suggested you were happy to research, form an opinion and get back to posts on here. I think you make a few assertions that go against a lot of evidence so I’m interested to see what your sources are/what’s helped you form your opinion so far.