Triggernometry - interview with Netanyahu

[Digitalhen]

Thoughts on this interview?

Massive scoop for the Trigger podcast.

Why bother commenting on a thread about an interview with him if you're not going to watch the interview. Pointless!

Although I didn't start the thread so it's not my link.

So 1948 is too far in the post, but an ancestral claim to the land 2000 years ago is super relevant to now? Hypocrisy much?

Where do you think I said an ancestral claim to the land 2000 years ago is relevant now. I didn't.

It was a bit of a strange comment.
Had Triggernometry interviewed Putin, I would have definitely watched it too.
Not because I agree with him, but because I’d be curious about what he had to say.

Same ... I would watch a Trump interview too.

Can't imagine posting on a thread about an interview without having watched the interview.

I think its quite a legitimate position to question the propagation of propaganda of someone charged by the ICC for war crimes but do you do.

Afraid so, yes. I think that was my first comment when I saw this thread pop up. The only acceptable narrative is ‘Israel is evil’ and from there it all quickly descends into DARVO. It’s astonishing because no other global conflict gets anything like this much attention.

But anyway, thanks for throwing your hat into the ring. Encouraging to see there are some people who can have a co structure discussion!

I meant by the disregard to the lives and safety of Palestinians, for example some of the settlers im the West Bank and the far right rhetoric coming out of the Knesset about displacement of Palestinians etc. The fact you disregard this is suggests either you condone it or feel it’s not noteworthy.

I would think that the lived experience of women and children of events at the hands of Hamas and Israel would be more powerful than words that the men in the family might express anyway.

You are now the second person defending Israel who has failed to answer the question of what a Gazan mother / child might think of Israel. They may not see Zionism as benign. Some Palestinian mothers from the West Bank may also concur.

Thank you. It was a good listen and as pp have said interesting to have spelt out Israel’s motivations and backgrounds. I was/ am Zionist anyway but so refreshing to have a non shrill listen. I’m now doing a deep dive into who triggermometry are!

I enjoy Triggernometry. Both the presenters have immigrant backgrounds which gives their questioning interesting slants. I like to listen to a variety of guess, especially the ones I feel I’m going to disagree with.I usually find it questions my thinking and forces me to think wider around issues I’ve thought I’d made my mind up on, even if they don’t change my mind.

Regarding the interview
7/10 rightly was barbaric. He continues to think of the war in Gaza as being a war against barbarism, which I can understand when speaking about fighting against Hamas.

However, he doesn’t reflect about impact on innocent Palestinians. He seemed to think that the Palestinians should thank him for getting rid of Hamas. Whilst it was positive for him to accept (unlike some) that Palestinians do not want Hamas, he doesn’t seem to show any appreciation of the impact of his government’s actions on every day life of Palestinians in Gaza.

To enforce the latter, he also seems to think that because some of the children showing malnutrition had genetic conditions, that starvation in Gaza is not true. Even some pro-Israeli supporters on here have accepted the shortage of food in Gaza is a significant concern. This makes me that they are not fully considering the impact of their actions on innocent people.

He totally discounted the fact that gen Z has extremely unfavourable views about Israel and how that might impact on future political support for Israel.

He needs the world to believe that we are all at risk from Islamic terrorists. Whilst I have some sympathy for this, no way do I see it as justification for what’s happened in Gaza, and I’m not sure Gen Z will either.

Why are you struggling to see that the vulnerable Palestinians, ie women and children, are indoctrinated by the men - more so the poor kids. I'm also not sure why you're so hell bent on hearing how they think of Israelis. They don't have a choice.

Maybe if you went back to the beginning of the trail- you’d understand why how the question arose. It was how others view Jewish ideology.

I am willing to accept that Palestinian women are significantly impacted by what men think. I am also going to give them the honour of allowing to make up their own minds about how they feel Israeli actions have had on their lives.

You think Jewish ideology/zionism is more of a threat than going against their own men.

I agree with a fair amount of what you said, particularly this ‘He totally discounted the fact that gen Z has extremely unfavourable views about Israel and how that might impact on future political support for Israel.’ however his point that Jews have been losing the propaganda war for 2500 years struck very true. We’ve been painted the devil and base evil of so many societies- we were the evil source of communism to one society and the evil socialists at the same time in another, we were non white to the Germans and now the white supremacists again. I kind of get his almost fatalistic attitude because of that. It’s almost like he’s saying it’s the world’s problem to sort out, especially as he is saying these views seem to go hand in hand with hatred for the west and western values.
I also see comments on x like Jews -109, and at that point I think if you’re going to use the fact that you believe the world has expelled us from 109 countries to create a further stick to beat us with, rather than this triggering reflection, then there’s really not much point engaging. So I get his fatalistic attitude. But I do think this is an exponentially growing problem in real time, not a future problem.

It was good to hear his position on the next step in Gaza as that’s been really unclear to me. I’m not sure how it is actualised, but it clarified things a little bit.

I think the interviewers pushed (in a good way) and challenged him on the comments from ministers in the government. Not sure how satisfied they were with his answers there!

the comments he made about the Hamas invasion being part of a planned multi pronged attack spearheaded by the Iranian regime, which would have critically crippled Israel backs up things I have read elsewhere. All I can say is thank Gd that did not happen as they had planned.

I would never feel it was ok for people, let alone children to be starved on my behalf.

Well for some in the West Bank it has been.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/10/child-deaths-surge-amid-gazafication-of-west-bank-report-says

I know you are trying to convince me that Palestinian women are subjugated by men. I don’t know enough to comment but imagine it’s very family specific- like in my cultural background.

But I don’t doubt they are still capable of developing their own view of their life experience due to Zionism independently.

Not jewish ideology but 100% on the modern twisted version of zionism, settlers shoot them, burn them, raze their villages - much more threatening than “men”!

I really like them too.
They seem to prepare well, ask interesting questions and then (probably the most important part) just let the guests talk without constantly interrupting them or putting words in their mouths.

Check back in, when you know what zionism means. Are you going to talk about the modern twisted version of Islam?

And me ... was a change to see people conducting a proper interview. By which I mean, they asked the hard questions but also gave Netanyahu an opportunity to answer without constantly interrupting him or talking over him.

Indeed, they did let the guest talk. Bibi basically got a free ride.
They didn't need to put words into his mouth, because he had them there already, just waiting to be spewed out.

This was not Journalism, this was untrammelled PR.

It's been a long time since I've seen such fawning admiration as that shown by the two "interviewers". It was as if they were bathing in the radiance of Moses himself. It's not often I get to write the word obsequious, but for one of them, it's appropriate.

Interview was interesting (watched it twice, once even before it had been flagged up on here) to see how Bibi presents his case. What (possibly) he believes and what he hopes we'll believe. What he thinks he can get away with saying. What he might possibly do.
Apart from that.......

I disagree as think good journalism is where the interviewer allows the interviewee the freedom to talk.

Now we know exactly where Netanyahu stands on all the questions they asked him. People may agree or disagree with the answers he gave but at least we know his opinions on these very important questions.

You’re right- they did ask interesting questions, but didn’t really challenge the narrative that Netanyahu gave- apart from the second interviewer challenging him about how right wing members of his government are impacting on how people view Israel, specifically impact on Gen z and how this may adversely affect Israel in the future.

It was an interview with a particular audience in mind, and whilst it gives people an insight into how he thinks- it does little to alter the views of those who have concerns about his government committing war crimes.

For example, he dismissed concerns about starvation because some of the pictures in the press were children with genetic conditions.

Agree- I was not also sure Netanyahu was giving absolutely truthful answers- eg impact of right wing members on decision making in the Knesset.

I felt he gave a feel good version of events that helps assuage concerns about bad “PR” that Israel is getting.

He may not agree to be interviewed by people who would challenge his answers.