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PaxAeterna · 23/08/2025 21:17

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:11

Well because it's so easy to believe Hamas would want their people fed, and not appear starved, so westerners would lap up the propaganda. Oppressing and controlling them on the one hand, while making sure they food reached them, on the other.

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So are you proposing a theory that Hamas have stolen so much food aid they have caused a famine?

And you think that the NGOs, doctors and the UN are lying about the causes?

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:17

Montysmoon · 23/08/2025 21:05

Whatever evidence I provide it wouldn’t be enough.

Answer me a question: you surely acknowledge that Hamas have millions of dollars. You surely acknowledge that Hamas leaders live luxury lifestyles in the Middle East (I’ll help you out by providing a link: https://nypost.com/2023/11/07/news/hamas-leaders-worth-11bn-live-luxury-lives-in-qatar/)

So, Hamas has the wealth and ability to end the famine tomorrow if it chose to. It could actually help the Palestinian people rather than continue to cause suffering. But it doesn’t. No - it’s all Israel’s responsibility. Don’t you think that’s mad?

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I’m in no way supporting these people but how on earth do you think they’d be able to get aid into Gaza?

Montysmoon · 23/08/2025 21:17

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:15

I’ve said what happened on7/10 could legally be tried as a war crime as it fits the criteria. Even a genocide. I’ve called out Islamophobia and antisemitism on here. I’m also happy to gently remind people that this is perhaps not the best place to makes jokes. Not everyone is ready to do that a day after a famine has been declared. I wouldn’t have joked around on 8/10 on threads - surely you see there’s a time and a place for humour.

But let’s move on. Are you ready to discuss Smotrich and the quotes he made which form part of the accusations of genocide.

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PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:18

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:16

I discussed him elsewhere. Go look.

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On MN?

quantumbutterfly · 23/08/2025 21:18

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:11

Some of the posts on this thread discussing a people suffering are famine are highly insensitive.

Why would you think it's appropriate to make jokes amongst yourselves on a thread like this?

I consider it insensitive to perpetuate holocaust inversion against an uninvolved UK community dealing with unprecedented levels of accepted antisemitism, but you do you.

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:19

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:13

Thank God most people in real life are appalled and disgusted by the Israeli government's continuous genocidal assault. They are a disgrace to humanity.

For every 10 of those, I will give you 20 who support Israel defending its people. Thank God.

Montysmoon · 23/08/2025 21:19

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:17

I’m in no way supporting these people but how on earth do you think they’d be able to get aid into Gaza?

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You don’t think Hamas can get aid to Hamas?

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:20

Montysmoon · 23/08/2025 21:19

You don’t think Hamas can get aid to Hamas?

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How?

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:24

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:16

I discussed him elsewhere. Go look.

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Found it - good old mumsnet search. You have posted about him once and said he appears to have a fan club. Nothing about the disturbing things he said. So what do you think about Smotrich?

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:29

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:24

Found it - good old mumsnet search. You have posted about him once and said he appears to have a fan club. Nothing about the disturbing things he said. So what do you think about Smotrich?

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I think he's got some fan girls.

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:29

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:19

For every 10 of those, I will give you 20 who support Israel defending its people. Thank God.

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Really. Show me one credible poll or stat to prove it from the UK?

MummytoE · 23/08/2025 21:31

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:13

Thank God most people in real life are appalled and disgusted by the Israeli government's continuous genocidal assault. They are a disgrace to humanity.

Agree, anonymous forums can really bring out the worst in people

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:32

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:29

Really. Show me one credible poll or stat to prove it from the UK?

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You know every person, in the real world, do you? I know I don't. It's called surmising.

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:32

MummytoE · 23/08/2025 21:31

Agree, anonymous forums can really bring out the worst in people

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The nerve 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:36

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:32

You know every person, in the real world, do you? I know I don't. It's called surmising.

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Unless you live in a bubble with 20 odd people who agree with you, then you should be able to show some evidence that there are more people supporting Israel as you say. So go on, show us.

Montysmoon · 23/08/2025 21:37

PinkBobby · 23/08/2025 21:20

How?

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Hamas terrorists have used cross-border tunnels between Egypt and Gaza to smuggle weapons into the strip, so why couldn’t they do the same with aid?

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:37

PaxAeterna · 23/08/2025 21:17

So are you proposing a theory that Hamas have stolen so much food aid they have caused a famine?

And you think that the NGOs, doctors and the UN are lying about the causes?

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How many times does those need to be repeated? You trust those sources, wholeheartedly, I don't. I'm not going to suddenly change my stance, no matter how much badgering goes on and there has been some constant badgering.

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:38

Whereas I can show you that public support for Israel is at the lowest it has ever been since yougov started tracking it over many years.

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:38

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:36

Unless you live in a bubble with 20 odd people who agree with you, then you should be able to show some evidence that there are more people supporting Israel as you say. So go on, show us.

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More badgering.

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:38

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:38

Whereas I can show you that public support for Israel is at the lowest it has ever been since yougov started tracking it over many years.

And this is throughout Europe, not just the UK.

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:38

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:38

Whereas I can show you that public support for Israel is at the lowest it has ever been since yougov started tracking it over many years.

You referred to people in the real world, as did I.

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:39

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:38

You referred to people in the real world, as did I.

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But you have nothing to back it up. So it's just your experience with people you know or follow? So basically your bubble.

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:42

The Israeli government have no one to blame but themselves for their decrease in support throughout the West. Their disproportionate and vile genocidal actions has led to this. A pariah state.

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:42

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:39

But you have nothing to back it up. So it's just your experience with people you know or follow? So basically your bubble.

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You think everybody hates Israel just because you do?

Dangermoo · 23/08/2025 21:43

Prettyrosess · 23/08/2025 21:42

The Israeli government have no one to blame but themselves for their decrease in support throughout the West. Their disproportionate and vile genocidal actions has led to this. A pariah state.

Can you not put all your thoughts into one main post.

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