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Conflict in the Middle East

50 Jewish children kicked off plane, female supervisor allegedly beaten to the ground and handcuffed!

690 replies

Anonimummy · 25/07/2025 20:38

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

50 French Jewish kids aged 10-15 apparently attended a summer camp in Spain.

On the flight back to France, before takeoff while plane still on tarmac, they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that). Police were called, they were told to get off and their 21 year old female supervisor ended up being beaten to the ground and forcibly handcuffed.

According to witnesses on the plane, the children stopped singing when asked and were well behaved, and nothing was amiss. The crew made a tannoy announcement that there were security concerns and police entered the plane and told the kids to get off. The female supervisor was ordered to make the kids hand over their phones so footage of them being removed from the plane could be deleted and she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed when she refused. The Captain allegedly said Israel was a terrorist state.

She later had to sign an NDA to be released.

The Captain has been identified as being a flying instructor for two of the 9/11 plane hijackers.

WTAF!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/07/24/jewish-schoolchildren-kicked-off-plane-singing-hebrew-songs/?s=09

https://x.com/JewsFightBack/status/1948787040088457336

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

https://x.com/igaln/status/1948794852285517877

https://x.com/SwordOfSalomon/status/1948384151222030596

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MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:47

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 12:41

Why repeat the unsubstantiated claim on the singing?

A lie sure does spread fast on SM

OP repeated the claim about the signing in his/her/its original post. How was that ok?

Spotthering · 26/07/2025 12:47

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 11:55

What proofs?

The pics of ill children with their obviously not starving parents?

The thousands of tonnes of aid rotting in the sun that the UN has been refusing to distribute?

I have quite a good ability to differentiate between bullshit and fact, thanks.

Ah. Should have known from your OP you would be one of those.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:48

Lolapusht · 26/07/2025 12:18

…and follows it by saying there’s no evidence of that.

”they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that)

So why raise it on here?

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:49

EasternStandard · Today 12:41
Why repeat the unsubstantiated claim on the singing?
A lie sure does spread fast on SM

So, there is now categorical proof that the singing is indeed a lie?

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 12:49

Spotthering · 26/07/2025 12:47

Ah. Should have known from your OP you would be one of those.

One of those what?

Truthseekers?

I know, we are so inconvenient aren’t we?

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notimagain · 26/07/2025 12:50

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 12:41

Why repeat the unsubstantiated claim on the singing?

A lie sure does spread fast on SM

Agreed.

Obviously Vuelling are going to back their crew to the hilt, but offloading the whole group when possibly (and we don't simply fon't know the details) only a portion were missbehaving is going to raise eyebrows..

Crewmembers have a lot of power but "I did it for safety reasons" doesn't always wash or even stand up legally....

We maybe will see.....

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 12:51

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:49

EasternStandard · Today 12:41
Why repeat the unsubstantiated claim on the singing?
A lie sure does spread fast on SM

So, there is now categorical proof that the singing is indeed a lie?

Back to this. Can people say whatever they like about you and if you can’t disprove it that’s fine, anything goes

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 12:51

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 12:29

Its mostly in the French language press so far, but you can run through translate. 'Damien" has spoken to a few outlets, it seems, but this was the most detailed account I could find:

https://www.europe1.fr/societe/expulsion-des-enfants-francais-de-confession-juive-du-vol-vueling-ils-etaient-tres-calmes-revele-un-passager-temoin-765215

Club Kineret's legal counsel claim to have several supportive witness statements from other passengers already (statement published on their Instagram - again, in French). Of course, they might not - but it'd be a pretty bold claim for a senior lawyer (as she seems to be) to make so quickly and publicly if it wasnt at least somewhat truthful.

Thanks for sharing that. Very interesting.

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 12:52

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 12:44

I questioned whether the police beat up the supervisor. If they were arrested I've no doubt they were handcuffed which is pretty standard practice. As I said an allegation that the supervisor was beaten up is pretty serious and there's no evidence for it but you agreed with the poster on it.
Maybe just be a bit more thorough with the posts you are agreeing with if you want to call out others for spreading lies.

I usually give no ducks to your posts but this time you got a one, a ducklink, to support the anecdote.
I think you think you're a lot more clever than you actually are, your "humorous" anecdotes fail to deliver

There is a 2 minute interview, in the OP, where one of the children describes the police hitting the supervisor in the leg, so that she fell to the ground, then pinning her, hancuffing her and continuing to "beat" her.

sashh · 26/07/2025 12:52

All of those posters who have expressed outrage that one adult was in charge of 50 children. Are you now going to accept you were wrong? Is it possible that you may have been wrong on other things?

I am not wrong, you need more than one young woman to escort a group of teens. On school trips you have to have 1 adult to 10 children, for Scout camps it is 1 adult for every 12 children.

47 or 50 children (I have seen both quoted) need at least 4 adults accompanying them.

Everything else I will wait until things are clearer because I just don't know.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 26/07/2025 12:53

inamarina · 26/07/2025 12:39

Where did OP claim they were singing “death to Arabs”?
What she said was:

“they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that)”

Why are you twisting her statement like that?

As for the camp director, she said twice in her OP that she was beaten to the ground and handcuffed, not that she was beaten up.
The Telegraph link (as well as several other sources) shows a clip of a person lying face down on the ground while being handcuffed, so I assume that’s what OP’s referring to. “Manhandled to the ground” might have been a better choice of word, but apart from that I don’t see what the issue with her statement is?

Where did OP claim they were singing “death to Arabs”?
I'll retract that apologies I thought she said they were singing it not allegedly

“Manhandled to the ground” might have been a better choice of word
Definitely, being beaten to the ground has very different connotations.

a clip of a person lying face down on the ground while being handcuffed,
Which is pretty standard police practice. Being beaten suggests something very different

Dangermoo · 26/07/2025 12:53

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 12:49

One of those what?

Truthseekers?

I know, we are so inconvenient aren’t we?

Yes, you're made to feel guilty by not sharing their views. That's just before the personal attacks and pile ons.

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 12:53

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:48

So why raise it on here?

Probably because its an antisemetic lie that seems to be spreading like wildfire on social media, despite the complete lack of evidence - hence the OP pointing that out...

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 12:55

notimagain · 26/07/2025 12:50

Agreed.

Obviously Vuelling are going to back their crew to the hilt, but offloading the whole group when possibly (and we don't simply fon't know the details) only a portion were missbehaving is going to raise eyebrows..

Crewmembers have a lot of power but "I did it for safety reasons" doesn't always wash or even stand up legally....

We maybe will see.....

Raise eyebrows? Fair enough if you think so.

The OP posted in haste it was purely based on anti-semitism. I still can't see how they came to that conclusion and so quickly too.

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 12:57

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

OP how did you reach this conclusion?

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:59

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 12:51

Back to this. Can people say whatever they like about you and if you can’t disprove it that’s fine, anything goes

But don’t you see? At this point, neither version is verified.

OP continues to insist though that their version of events is the truth. And that anti-Semitism was the only reason for the ejection of this group. That is far from proven.

OP has made some disgusting comments about the starvation of people - babies and children in particular - in Gaza on other threads, perpetuating that it’s all a lie. That somehow respected organisations and bodies the world over are colluding, for whatever reason, to put out anti-Israeli propaganda to the point where they are accusing respected news organisations of presenting AI images.

Can you not see why the viewpoint of someone with such obvious (irrational) bias is being questioned on this thread?

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 12:59

mamagogo1 · 25/07/2025 21:39

Whether it’s acceptable to kick them off the plane is down to behaviour. I wasn’t there so cannot tell you whether they reached the threshold of compromising safety but reports I’ve read suggest they wouldn’t be quiet during the safety demonstration (a legal obligation to fly) tampered with life jackets and tried to release the oxygen masks. The 21 year old had no control over them at all and no idea how such a large group was allowed without more adults. As to what happened next after disembarking, no idea.

what was said and whether it was provocative let’s say again reports vary but chanting has been mentioned in a French language newspaper but by a minority of the children

For about the 15th time in the thread, there were 7 adults supervising.

The reports you are reading are repeating the airline's account - yet to be supported by a witness but its early days.

Spotthering · 26/07/2025 12:59

Anonimummy · 26/07/2025 12:49

One of those what?

Truthseekers?

I know, we are so inconvenient aren’t we?

Or rather someone with no humanity that dying children are a conspiracy theory to you.

inamarina · 26/07/2025 13:00

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:47

OP repeated the claim about the signing in his/her/its original post. How was that ok?

She said: “they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that)”.
What several other posters on this thread are doing is repeating the claim without mentioning that it hasn’t been proven.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 13:00

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 12:59

For about the 15th time in the thread, there were 7 adults supervising.

The reports you are reading are repeating the airline's account - yet to be supported by a witness but its early days.

What purpose does the airline have in lying? Is it part of a worldwide conspiracy against Israel too?

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 13:01

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 13:00

What purpose does the airline have in lying? Is it part of a worldwide conspiracy against Israel too?

According to the OP, yes.

Children starving in Gaza, on the other hand is fake according to them. Bonkers.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 13:02

inamarina · 26/07/2025 13:00

She said: “they were accused of being rowdy and singing ‘Death to Arabs’ in Hebrew (no evidence they were saying that)”.
What several other posters on this thread are doing is repeating the claim without mentioning that it hasn’t been proven.

And what several others are reasonably pointing out is that is has not been disproven, either.

The immediate leap to it must be anti-Semitism is ridiculous.

MyDearEagle · 26/07/2025 13:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:59

But don’t you see? At this point, neither version is verified.

OP continues to insist though that their version of events is the truth. And that anti-Semitism was the only reason for the ejection of this group. That is far from proven.

OP has made some disgusting comments about the starvation of people - babies and children in particular - in Gaza on other threads, perpetuating that it’s all a lie. That somehow respected organisations and bodies the world over are colluding, for whatever reason, to put out anti-Israeli propaganda to the point where they are accusing respected news organisations of presenting AI images.

Can you not see why the viewpoint of someone with such obvious (irrational) bias is being questioned on this thread?

At the moment, there are two purported versions of the story, one from the airport authorities, one from the group.

There is nobody actually involved in the incident that alleges the chanting occurred.

EasternStandard · 26/07/2025 13:02

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 12:59

But don’t you see? At this point, neither version is verified.

OP continues to insist though that their version of events is the truth. And that anti-Semitism was the only reason for the ejection of this group. That is far from proven.

OP has made some disgusting comments about the starvation of people - babies and children in particular - in Gaza on other threads, perpetuating that it’s all a lie. That somehow respected organisations and bodies the world over are colluding, for whatever reason, to put out anti-Israeli propaganda to the point where they are accusing respected news organisations of presenting AI images.

Can you not see why the viewpoint of someone with such obvious (irrational) bias is being questioned on this thread?

No I think it’s madness. The argument if you can’t prove it didn’t happen - that applies to anything.

The internet is bad enough but if you take your argument to its conclusion anything can be said and stand and it’s fine as it can’t be disproved.

Those repeating the unsubstantiated claim are fuelling misinformation. If it’s how they approach facts then why believe anything that is said. If people will use anything, then it’s all unbelievable.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/07/2025 13:03

Custardanddreams · 26/07/2025 12:57

Another shocking act of global antisemitism.

OP how did you reach this conclusion?

Some people are determined to see it wherever they look. Regardless of facts. None of which have been clearly established yet.