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Conflict in the Middle East

The Children Starve First

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Municipal · 21/05/2025 20:43

I wanted to open a space to reflect on something that’s been haunting me.

I've noticed in reports from Gaza that children are dying of starvation at shocking rates — even more than adults. At first I wondered how this could be, given that children need less food than adults. But I’ve since learned that children are actually the first to die in famine situations.

Here’s why:

  • Children have smaller bodies but higher nutritional needs per kilogram, especially during growth spurts. They need regular, balanced intake to maintain development.
  • Malnutrition hits them faster — their energy stores are smaller, and their bodies have less ability to adapt to a lack of nutrients.
  • Their immune systems weaken rapidly, making them far more likely to die from diseases that an adult body might fight off.
  • Infants and toddlers can’t chew tougher emergency rations or go without water as long, and breastfed babies suffer if their mothers are dehydrated or malnourished.
  • The UN says that in every famine, the first to die are the smallest and weakest.
The stories of babies dying in their mothers’ arms — not from bombs or bullets but from hunger — are unbearable. I can’t stop thinking about the terror and anguish these parents must feel. How helpless it must be to watch your child fade away slowly, knowing you have nothing left to give them.

I know we talk about current events, about war, politics, sides — but surely, we can unite around this: no child should starve to death in their mother’s arms.

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dairydebris · 22/05/2025 16:31

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 16:17

@dairydebris ... it's not actually their aid to hold back I believe.
You are right in that. Many governments have spent tens of millions on humanitarian aid, civilians from across the globe have donated money to fund humanitarian aid yet the majority of it is sitting outside Gaza.

but not a single call for Hamas to hand back the hostages and surrender, which would have the aid flowing immediately and without pause.
There are negotiations ongoing the children in Gaza don't have time to wait. Aid needs to flow regardless of anything else that happens. Hamas need to release the hostages but access to aid is time critical Israel should never have collectively punished the citizens at all it is a war crime.

I'd argue that releasing the hostages is time critical too.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:00

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 16:31

I'd argue that releasing the hostages is time critical too.

Yes of course and no doubt the lack of access to aid is effecting them too. Netanyahu has not prioritised their safe release. I still don't understand why they did not move to phase 2 of ceasefire agreement no clear explanation was ever provided

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:13

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:00

Yes of course and no doubt the lack of access to aid is effecting them too. Netanyahu has not prioritised their safe release. I still don't understand why they did not move to phase 2 of ceasefire agreement no clear explanation was ever provided

Yes. So many people suffering. If only Hamas would just end it now.

caramac04 · 22/05/2025 17:17

Igotjelly · 21/05/2025 21:14

If not his tacit support they have apathy from the US government. The Palestinian people have been so dehumanised for so long.

Dehumanised is the correct description. As were Jewish people by Hitler. Both want/ed genocide.
Have we learnt nothing?

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:20

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:13

Yes. So many people suffering. If only Hamas would just end it now.

Netanyahu and his government have been very clear that, regardless of what Hamas do or don't do, they will continue to "cleanse" Gaza. As I said they didn't seem interested in moving to phase 2 of a plan that would have released all hostages by now

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:26

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:20

Netanyahu and his government have been very clear that, regardless of what Hamas do or don't do, they will continue to "cleanse" Gaza. As I said they didn't seem interested in moving to phase 2 of a plan that would have released all hostages by now

Edited

Do you think Netanyahu is more likely to get away with 'cleansing' Gaza ( which i don't support by the way ) if Hamas surrenders and returns the hostages, or if Hamas cling onto power and hostages until the bitter end?

Kakeandkake · 22/05/2025 17:35

Why are Palestinians held in prison that have never been charged with a crime hardly ever mentioned? Why aren't people calling for their release too?

Kakeandkake · 22/05/2025 17:35

Held in Israeli prisons*

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:38

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:26

Do you think Netanyahu is more likely to get away with 'cleansing' Gaza ( which i don't support by the way ) if Hamas surrenders and returns the hostages, or if Hamas cling onto power and hostages until the bitter end?

I wouldn't have thought he would get "away" with as much as he has so I have no idea how far Netanyahu thinks he can push it, and if the US continue to support his plan who knows. Netanyahu will find a reason to continue regardless and does not appear to care about anything their allies say.

maltravers · 22/05/2025 17:40

It’s hard not to conclude that Netenyahu’s need to cling to power (those corruption claims could see him in jail otherwise) make the hostages a useful excuse to raze Gaza. He certainly doesn’t seem to be prioritising their return.

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:43

Kakeandkake · 22/05/2025 17:35

Why are Palestinians held in prison that have never been charged with a crime hardly ever mentioned? Why aren't people calling for their release too?

People call for that all the time on here.

For me personally the situation is nuanced.
Those accused of crimes should be tried. Released if found innocent, kept held if guilty.
I wouldn't call for terrorists convicted of killing or planning to kill Israeli civilians to be released. Surely none of us would.

It's obviously not as clear cut as the Israeli hostage situation is it? They should never have been taken and should be released, now, yesterday, months ago, no questions asked.

The 2 groups are not the same.

DrummingMousWife · 22/05/2025 17:46

It’s horrific. There are no words for what these people are going through.

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:48

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 17:38

I wouldn't have thought he would get "away" with as much as he has so I have no idea how far Netanyahu thinks he can push it, and if the US continue to support his plan who knows. Netanyahu will find a reason to continue regardless and does not appear to care about anything their allies say.

OK I'll reword it.

Is Netanyahu more likely to raze and cleanse Gaza if Hamas are in power, or if Hamas surrender and return the hostages?

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 18:03

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:48

OK I'll reword it.

Is Netanyahu more likely to raze and cleanse Gaza if Hamas are in power, or if Hamas surrender and return the hostages?

I honestly don't think it matters to him or his extreme ministers either way. His end goal is to cleanse Gaza he'll find a reason to attempt it with or without Hamas there

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 18:13

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 22/05/2025 18:03

I honestly don't think it matters to him or his extreme ministers either way. His end goal is to cleanse Gaza he'll find a reason to attempt it with or without Hamas there

I agree it doesn't matter to him. I think the main thing that matters to him is himself.
However, even given that, he's still more likely to stop if Hamas surrender and return the hostages, don't you think?

smallglassbottle · 22/05/2025 18:15

The government wants to build a canal going into the Mediterranean Sea. It's supposed to be planned for just north of Gaza, but I don't expect they'll want to have such a thing in such a volatile area, so it's best if Gaza is cleared. Also, they want all the waterfront land as it's valuable for development.

It's a race against time for them as they need to reduce as many numbers of people as they can because their plan to stuff them into a refugee type compound in the south of Gaza will be easier with fewer people. They'll just keep that going ad infinitum or until a country agrees to take them. They'll restrict food, water, medical aid and electricity to reduce life expectancy and work to make them die out eventually. I expect all the Palestinians in the West Bank will be sent there as well in the near future.

MummytoE · 22/05/2025 18:18

Kakeandkake · 22/05/2025 17:35

Why are Palestinians held in prison that have never been charged with a crime hardly ever mentioned? Why aren't people calling for their release too?

Because they have been dehumanised, they don't matter

Igotjelly · 22/05/2025 18:24

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 17:43

People call for that all the time on here.

For me personally the situation is nuanced.
Those accused of crimes should be tried. Released if found innocent, kept held if guilty.
I wouldn't call for terrorists convicted of killing or planning to kill Israeli civilians to be released. Surely none of us would.

It's obviously not as clear cut as the Israeli hostage situation is it? They should never have been taken and should be released, now, yesterday, months ago, no questions asked.

The 2 groups are not the same.

I don’t think many would disagree that terrorists should be jailed but as you say it’s the lack of due process. Some of these kids (and lots of them are under 18) have done little more than throw stones and are disappeared into the prison system without a fair trial. People can read a bit more about it here https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/07/un-report-palestinian-detainees-held-arbitrarily-and-secretly-subjected

MissyB1 · 22/05/2025 18:27

smallglassbottle · 22/05/2025 18:15

The government wants to build a canal going into the Mediterranean Sea. It's supposed to be planned for just north of Gaza, but I don't expect they'll want to have such a thing in such a volatile area, so it's best if Gaza is cleared. Also, they want all the waterfront land as it's valuable for development.

It's a race against time for them as they need to reduce as many numbers of people as they can because their plan to stuff them into a refugee type compound in the south of Gaza will be easier with fewer people. They'll just keep that going ad infinitum or until a country agrees to take them. They'll restrict food, water, medical aid and electricity to reduce life expectancy and work to make them die out eventually. I expect all the Palestinians in the West Bank will be sent there as well in the near future.

Let's call that compound what it will actually be - a concentration camp like those in the second world war. Refugee camp suggests the people will be cared for, they will definitely not be well cared for, I think we all know that 🙁

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 22/05/2025 18:58

I think the whole world knows who the real terrorist is - it is Israel.

Terrorising the Palestinians. Killing the innocent babies, women, men, elderly.

Blocking Aid. Blocking Journalists.

Terrorising and Killing Journalists and Medical Professionals.

People can make whatever excuse they want - but this is a Terroristic Genocide. The media is complicit and so are the US/UK governments.

ButterfliesnWaterfalls · 22/05/2025 19:00

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Igotjelly · 22/05/2025 19:01

Hamas are terrorists and Netanyahu’s administration are terrorists. The two things can be true at once.

TheignT · 22/05/2025 19:03

ExtraOnions · 21/05/2025 21:15

What kind of psychotic monster would block Aid, that was going towards starving Children and Babies.
Netanyahu and his government will be remembered in history as Genocidal thugs. His Imperialist ambitions are without end - he is happy to kill every child in Gaza, so he clings into power.
His behaviour, and the behaviour of those supplying Arms and money is a stain on the world.

We know exactly what sort of monster, his name is Netanyahu.

Odras · 22/05/2025 19:30

dairydebris · 22/05/2025 18:13

I agree it doesn't matter to him. I think the main thing that matters to him is himself.
However, even given that, he's still more likely to stop if Hamas surrender and return the hostages, don't you think?

I don’t think so. He already pulled out of a ceasefire deal that would have returned the hostages. But what an unrealistic ask as well. What party in a negotiation as well is going to give up their only leverage. Blinken & the US government at the time gave much advice on the best way to dismantle Hamas and it was completely ignored.

But regardless of all of this. The main reason for the pressure on Israel from western quarters is that Israel is an ally. It is literally our responsibility, as an ally of Israel, to call them out on their behaviour. We are collectively responsible for what happens to the people in Gaza.

Stripes56 · 22/05/2025 19:41

AIBUHere · 22/05/2025 10:49

Do you even realise how much aid Hamas/PIJ has stockpiled for themselves and to sell for munitions to prolong this war?

They have seized whole trucks of aid in the hundreds.

Hamas are the sole factor in baby food and formula not reaching babies. There should be at least 4 months worth in the strip.

Where are the starving babies btw? If there were any SM would be awash with videos of them.

How many pro-Palestinians wanted to see evidence of rape and murder on Oct 7th and still deny it to this day? That was extremely shocking.

It only works for one side in your echo bubble?

How many kinds of delusional to do you have to be to believe a terrorist organisation, and their supporters in high places, who’s only real weapon in the evil war they started, is anti Israel propaganda and antisemitism?

Haaretz is nothing but an extreme left wing trash bin liner with views that have contributed to the war Israel is having to fight today.

Appeasing evil terrorists who have stated an intention to wipe you out doesn’t end well.

My post clearly hit a nerve. The dehumanisation of Palestinians is astounding. The denial I guess is necessary for some as perhaps the truth is too painful to acknowledge for some Israel supporters. Yes - I did acknowledge the horror of what Hamas has done.

Open your eyes and you will see it. The world can see it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrv5rl73zdo.amp

A woman in a headscarf changes the nappy of baby Siwar who lies inside a hospital cot

Gaza malnutrition on rise as Israeli blockade enters third month - BBC News

Five-month-old Siwar can barely cry, her voice so hoarse from the lack of milk she needs to survive.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czrv5rl73zdo.amp

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