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US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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Twiglets1 · 10/05/2025 06:12

The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

Palestinian receive food cooked by a charity kitchen in Beit Lahia, northern Gaza Strip (8 May 2025)

US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

UN agencies say they will not co-operate with the proposed system because it appears to "weaponise" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

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ssd · 10/06/2025 18:51

HellsBalls · 10/06/2025 17:09

“Palestinian media reports some 20 dead and dozens wounded by Israeli fire near a humanitarian aid distribution site in central Gaza’s Netzarim Corridor.
The tolls cannot be verified. The reports say the people were waiting to pick up supplies at the site.
The IDF does not immediately comment on the claims.”

Where do the IDF say they were doing the shooting?

Yawn

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 06:37

Most media sources do not just mention the Hamas version of an incident but report on what the IDF say too. Even Sky News which always prioritises what the "Hamas-run health ministry" has to say, will give more balance than some posters on here.

Israel's military said in a statement its forces fired warning shots at suspects who were advancing and posed a threat to troops "despite warnings that the area is an active combat zone".

It said it was aware of reports several people had been injured but its initial inquiry suggests the number "does not align with the information held" by the Israeli military.

"The warning shots were fired hundreds of metres from the aid distribution site, prior to its opening hours and toward the suspects who posed a threat to the troops," it said, adding that the details are under review.

The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which runs the sites, said there has been no violence in or around the distribution centres themselves.

news.sky.com/story/dozens-more-killed-near-food-distribution-centre-in-gaza-claims-hamas-run-health-ministry-13381825

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Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:17

It's convenient for the IDF to phrase it as warning shots when there are videos online of the incidents where scores of people are ducking and trying to hide whilst relentless shooting is happening in the background.

One Palestinian explains he doesn't want to die but he also doesn't want to return home empty handed to his children who are starving so he has no choice but to risk his life. If he listened to the IDF and set off at the strict time they gave then he would return home empty handed as there isn't enough food so again he has a choice to risk his life for a bag of flour or equivalent or watch his children starve.

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:24

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:17

It's convenient for the IDF to phrase it as warning shots when there are videos online of the incidents where scores of people are ducking and trying to hide whilst relentless shooting is happening in the background.

One Palestinian explains he doesn't want to die but he also doesn't want to return home empty handed to his children who are starving so he has no choice but to risk his life. If he listened to the IDF and set off at the strict time they gave then he would return home empty handed as there isn't enough food so again he has a choice to risk his life for a bag of flour or equivalent or watch his children starve.

The videos showing shooting happening in the background are consistent with the IDF firing warning shots.

And you could equally say it's convenient for Hamas to frame the incident as the IDF shooting innocent Palestinians who were presenting no threat to them at all.

Who wants to discredit the aid distribution centres and discourage people from using them? Who has ordered civilians not to attend them in the harshest terms? Hamas.

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Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:28

So the Palestinians are all lying? Tell me Twiglets what would you do in their place? Leave at a later time and return home empty handed whilst you have starving children relying on you or risk your life going early and being shot by the IDF for doing so?

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 11/06/2025 07:37

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:24

The videos showing shooting happening in the background are consistent with the IDF firing warning shots.

And you could equally say it's convenient for Hamas to frame the incident as the IDF shooting innocent Palestinians who were presenting no threat to them at all.

Who wants to discredit the aid distribution centres and discourage people from using them? Who has ordered civilians not to attend them in the harshest terms? Hamas.

You don't seem to be able to accept that the system for distributing aid is not working. Innocent hungry civilians are being killed trying to access aid, walk hours to get it and even then go away empty handed because there is not enough to go round. It has been described as the hunger games which is not far off in my opinion. Can you point me to one non US/ Israeli view on this that feels it's working?

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:41

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:28

So the Palestinians are all lying? Tell me Twiglets what would you do in their place? Leave at a later time and return home empty handed whilst you have starving children relying on you or risk your life going early and being shot by the IDF for doing so?

I’m not saying they are all lying. There is mass confusion when shots are heard in the background & most will have no idea what exactly is happening.

Some will be lying. Either believing the Hamas narrative or being Hamas members or sympathisers.

I would stick to the designated safe routes and not stray from them.

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Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:47

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 11/06/2025 07:37

You don't seem to be able to accept that the system for distributing aid is not working. Innocent hungry civilians are being killed trying to access aid, walk hours to get it and even then go away empty handed because there is not enough to go round. It has been described as the hunger games which is not far off in my opinion. Can you point me to one non US/ Israeli view on this that feels it's working?

I haven’t said the new system is working well. It clearly isn’t plus there aren’t nearly enough aid distribution centres.

To compare them to the hunger games is hyperbole and discredits the serious point that there are not enough of them and none in the North so far.

Israel say they are in the process of building more centres including in the North and this is what is needed. But I do agree with the Israel view on why a new mechanism for aid distribution had to be found. It’s just that this system isn’t currently working because 3/4 such centres for the whole of Gaza isn’t enough.

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ssd · 11/06/2025 07:50

I'm beginning to think one of the reasons the Israeli government dont allow international journalists into Gaza is so that any official information coming from Gaza is immediately discounted as its from "a hamas run ministry"..

If journalists were allowed in no one could or should discount actual evidence.

But if it comes from Hamas its immediately criticised.

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:51

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:41

I’m not saying they are all lying. There is mass confusion when shots are heard in the background & most will have no idea what exactly is happening.

Some will be lying. Either believing the Hamas narrative or being Hamas members or sympathisers.

I would stick to the designated safe routes and not stray from them.

The issue wasn't the safe routes this time though was it? The issue was Palestinians are ordered by the IDF not to leave towards the aid hubs right until they open because they are conveniently opened in combat zones and they DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD! People are not going to listen when they know following the IDF's instructions will likely mean they return home empty handed. Don't you think this would be resolved if they allowed in enough aid for the people thst is just sitting idle at the border?

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:53

ssd · 11/06/2025 07:50

I'm beginning to think one of the reasons the Israeli government dont allow international journalists into Gaza is so that any official information coming from Gaza is immediately discounted as its from "a hamas run ministry"..

If journalists were allowed in no one could or should discount actual evidence.

But if it comes from Hamas its immediately criticised.

Yes, and journalists themselves have realised and openly said that what is Israel trying to hide? If they are really saying the truth then let us in and see for ourselves.

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 11/06/2025 08:01

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 07:47

I haven’t said the new system is working well. It clearly isn’t plus there aren’t nearly enough aid distribution centres.

To compare them to the hunger games is hyperbole and discredits the serious point that there are not enough of them and none in the North so far.

Israel say they are in the process of building more centres including in the North and this is what is needed. But I do agree with the Israel view on why a new mechanism for aid distribution had to be found. It’s just that this system isn’t currently working because 3/4 such centres for the whole of Gaza isn’t enough.

To compare them to the hunger games is hyperbole
Yes possibly, wasn't coined by me it's repeated by people over and over so the images coming out of Gaza from these distribution points obviously remind people of it.

I'm glad you agree the system is not working. It is putting already very vulnerable people in a dangerous position, the walk alone is too much for some and detrimental to their health. So how about you stop with this kind of rhetoric I would stick to the designated safe routes and not stray from them again, again* *suggesting these vulnerable people are at fault. Show some compassion.

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:10

ssd · 11/06/2025 07:50

I'm beginning to think one of the reasons the Israeli government dont allow international journalists into Gaza is so that any official information coming from Gaza is immediately discounted as its from "a hamas run ministry"..

If journalists were allowed in no one could or should discount actual evidence.

But if it comes from Hamas its immediately criticised.

They are starting to let international journalists in now. Should have done it sooner in my opinion.

Reuters: The Israeli army said on Sunday it had retrieved the body of Hamas' military chief Mohammed Sinwar in an underground tunnel beneath a hospital in southern Gaza, following a targeted operation last month.

Another senior Hamas leader, Mohammad Shabana, commander of the Rafah Brigade, was also found dead at the scene along with a number of other militants, who are still being identified, said IDF spokesperson, Brigadier General Effie Defrin.

Israeli forces gave a small group of foreign reporters a tour of the tunnel that had been uncovered beneath the European Hospital in Khan Younis, which Defrin said was a major command and control compound for Hamas.

"This is another example of the cynical use by Hamas, using civilians as human shields, using civilian infrastructure, hospitals, again and again," said Defrin.
"We found underneath the hospital, right under the emergency room, a compound of a few rooms. In one of them we found, we killed Mohammed Sinwar," he said.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-reveals-tunnel-under-gaza-hospital-says-body-sinwars-brother-found-there-2025-06-08/

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Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:14

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 11/06/2025 08:01

To compare them to the hunger games is hyperbole
Yes possibly, wasn't coined by me it's repeated by people over and over so the images coming out of Gaza from these distribution points obviously remind people of it.

I'm glad you agree the system is not working. It is putting already very vulnerable people in a dangerous position, the walk alone is too much for some and detrimental to their health. So how about you stop with this kind of rhetoric I would stick to the designated safe routes and not stray from them again, again* *suggesting these vulnerable people are at fault. Show some compassion.

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I was specifically asked what I would do if I were in their position and this is my honest answer. I will stop answering questions about what I would do when people stop asking them.

And if you agree that the hunger games description is hyperbolic then I suggest you stop repeating it.

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Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:16

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:53

Yes, and journalists themselves have realised and openly said that what is Israel trying to hide? If they are really saying the truth then let us in and see for ourselves.

See my post about the fact they have now allowed a small group of journalists in to see for themselves the truth about the bombing of the European hospital. They were targeting Hamas leaders hiding in a control centre underneath a hospital, not civilians and not medical staff as previously claimed.

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Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:19

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 07:51

The issue wasn't the safe routes this time though was it? The issue was Palestinians are ordered by the IDF not to leave towards the aid hubs right until they open because they are conveniently opened in combat zones and they DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD! People are not going to listen when they know following the IDF's instructions will likely mean they return home empty handed. Don't you think this would be resolved if they allowed in enough aid for the people thst is just sitting idle at the border?

And I'm not going to answer more questions from you today about what I think or what I would do seeing as I just got insulted by you after giving my answer to another "what would you do?" question that you posed.

If you can't debate respectfully then forget it.

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Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 08:19

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:16

See my post about the fact they have now allowed a small group of journalists in to see for themselves the truth about the bombing of the European hospital. They were targeting Hamas leaders hiding in a control centre underneath a hospital, not civilians and not medical staff as previously claimed.

They are only let a few journalists in to see this one incident which the IDF feels will be in their favour. That's not the same as allowing journalists in to witness what is happening in Gaza on the ground.

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 08:23

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:19

And I'm not going to answer more questions from you today about what I think or what I would do seeing as I just got insulted by you after giving my answer to another "what would you do?" question that you posed.

If you can't debate respectfully then forget it.

Excuse me? Where is the insult? I did not insult you at all!

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:26

Telegraph: There are no ‘journalists’ in Gaza. Just Hamas propaganda operatives

Britain and the world’s views of the rights and wrongs of the Gaza war are so often shaped by what the BBC reports. That’s mattered more than ever in recent weeks, amid the feverishly heated coverage of Israel’s new Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) scheme to deliver aid to the Palestinian people and bypass allegedly Hamas-controlled NGOs.

Hamas-linked sources claim Israeli soldiers have repeatedly shot and killed Palestinian civilians waiting for GHF food with their families. Stories bearing the bylines of BBC “journalists” in Gaza largely tell this version of events, albeit including the denials of the IDF.

News organisations using Gazan reporters say they have no choice, given the IDF’s refusal to allow in outside journalists.

But that’s no reason not to exercise care and employ the same editorial standards as they would on any other story.

For critics of the BBC, the results have been a disaster for the Corporation and its standards.

They point to the stories that have not been told, or have been largely overlooked, by these reporters almost throughout the war: of Hamas’s tyranny over the people of Gaza, its torture and murder of opponents, and of the courageous Palestinians who defy its rule.

And why is there such scant coverage of Hamas using the civilian population as a human shield by placing tunnels under civilian buildings and military bases in hospital?

Where are the stories of Israeli hostages being moved across Gaza?

Why is there no footage of Hamas firing rockets or their gunmen on the move?

There is an obvious answer: it appears that these reporters are either pro-Hamas, or too afraid of reprisals from terrorist gunmen to tell the truth.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/10/journalists-gaza-hamas-activists-propaganda-idf/

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Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:29

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 08:23

Excuse me? Where is the insult? I did not insult you at all!

You said, "Show some compassion" thus implying I have none.

You make debates personal and then start with the personal attacks.

Not interested.

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kirinm · 11/06/2025 08:36

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:26

Telegraph: There are no ‘journalists’ in Gaza. Just Hamas propaganda operatives

Britain and the world’s views of the rights and wrongs of the Gaza war are so often shaped by what the BBC reports. That’s mattered more than ever in recent weeks, amid the feverishly heated coverage of Israel’s new Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) scheme to deliver aid to the Palestinian people and bypass allegedly Hamas-controlled NGOs.

Hamas-linked sources claim Israeli soldiers have repeatedly shot and killed Palestinian civilians waiting for GHF food with their families. Stories bearing the bylines of BBC “journalists” in Gaza largely tell this version of events, albeit including the denials of the IDF.

News organisations using Gazan reporters say they have no choice, given the IDF’s refusal to allow in outside journalists.

But that’s no reason not to exercise care and employ the same editorial standards as they would on any other story.

For critics of the BBC, the results have been a disaster for the Corporation and its standards.

They point to the stories that have not been told, or have been largely overlooked, by these reporters almost throughout the war: of Hamas’s tyranny over the people of Gaza, its torture and murder of opponents, and of the courageous Palestinians who defy its rule.

And why is there such scant coverage of Hamas using the civilian population as a human shield by placing tunnels under civilian buildings and military bases in hospital?

Where are the stories of Israeli hostages being moved across Gaza?

Why is there no footage of Hamas firing rockets or their gunmen on the move?

There is an obvious answer: it appears that these reporters are either pro-Hamas, or too afraid of reprisals from terrorist gunmen to tell the truth.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/10/journalists-gaza-hamas-activists-propaganda-idf/

It takes less than 30 seconds to read about this ‘journalist’.

Whatsinanamehey · 11/06/2025 08:41

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:29

You said, "Show some compassion" thus implying I have none.

You make debates personal and then start with the personal attacks.

Not interested.

Please point out where I said that as I have read through my posts again and I can't see it. I most certainly did not say that so that is a false accusation on your part.

ssd · 11/06/2025 08:48

As i understand it, Israel invited a small group of journalists to inspect the tunnels Hamas used.

So therefore these journalists were sympathetic to Israel?

I cant imagine they would let anyone in who doesn't toe the party line.

Twiglets1 · 11/06/2025 08:54

ComeAsYouAreAsAFriend · 11/06/2025 08:01

To compare them to the hunger games is hyperbole
Yes possibly, wasn't coined by me it's repeated by people over and over so the images coming out of Gaza from these distribution points obviously remind people of it.

I'm glad you agree the system is not working. It is putting already very vulnerable people in a dangerous position, the walk alone is too much for some and detrimental to their health. So how about you stop with this kind of rhetoric I would stick to the designated safe routes and not stray from them again, again* *suggesting these vulnerable people are at fault. Show some compassion.

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Apologies @Whatsinanamehey it was this person who said it not you.

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