US confirms plan for private firms to deliver Gaza aid despite UN alarm

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The US has confirmed that a new system for providing humanitarian aid to Palestinians in Gaza through private companies is being prepared, as Israel's blockade continues for a third month.

US ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee said "distribution centres" protected by security contractors would provide food and other supplies to over a million people initially, as part of an effort to prevent Hamas stealing aid.

He denied Israel would take part in aid delivery or distribution, but said its forces would secure the centres' perimeters.

It comes as details emerged about the controversial plan, which UN agencies have reiterated they will not co-operate with because it appears to "weaponize" aid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cp92rlm300mo

No I don't think it is a good idea.

Just wanted to correct the misinformation being said by the other poster.

They are employed by Netanyahu and he has admitted that.

Normally the answer of someone who doesn’t have anything to back up what they’re saying.

Happy for you to prove me wrong on this occasion.

I actually have not posted any misinformation, they are employed at the aid distribution centres. The video shows them unpacking aid there and says it is not disputed. I don’t know who pays them to work there - how can any of us know for certain. The point is you said Hamas threatened Palestinians working there and I said the threat was most likely aimed at this armed gang. The rest is all just circular and nit picking.

Why are people acting like it’s a good job an armed gang that kill and loot are getting weapons from Israel. You know Hamas was initially funded by Israel as opposition to the Palestinian Authority and we see how that turned out.

The Israeli government are responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians and after much criticism they are giving violent gangs weapons to bump up the deaths without it being attributed to them. There is video footage of this gang shooting people, of them looting. This gang have been reported by the UN to have looted lorries, there are reports from last year of this gang looting lorries as the IDF stood back and watched. The IDF claimed to close off Gaza to aid because aid was being looted and now it turns out they were paying the looters. It’s all just a puppet show, a slide of hand, manipulation and tricks to try to justify mass murder.

You know Hamas was initially funded by Israel as opposition to the Palestinian Authority and we see how that turned out.

Not initially, and that is an important distinction.

as per Wikipedia : The Hamas movement was founded by Palestinian Islamic scholar Ahmed Yassin in 1987, after the outbreak of the First Intifada ........ It emerged from his 1973 Mujama al-Islamiya Islamic charity affiliated with the Muslim Brotherhood.

.....Hamas was established in 1987, and allegedly has its origins in Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood movement, which had been active in the Gaza Strip since the 1950s and gained influence through a network of mosques and various charitable and social organizations.

@RandomWordsThrownTogether at 11.12 today you said the violent criminal gangs armed by Israel who have been attacking civilians and looting are actually employed by the aid distribution centres!

They are not employed by the aid distribution centres but they are working at them.

Possibly it's a language issue. But just because my employer asks me to work at a different location sometimes, that doesn't mean that the organisation at the other location employs me.

They are working at the aid distribution centres at the moment but paid by Netanyahu (he is their employer because he pays them).

Also Random, you question me as to Why are people acting like it’s a good job an armed gang that kill and loot are getting weapons from Israel very soon after I have said to @Odras that I don't think that it's a good idea.

I only said that this afternoon - do you even read other people's posts?

Employer!
Do they have employment contracts? Honestly your attempt to legitimise this is mind boggling. They're dangerous thugs being paid to terrorise. Not sure why you think it's relevant who is actually handing over the cash and weapons to them.

I'm not trying to legitimise anything.

I have said I don't agree with Netanyahu paying gangs.

It's just that @RandomWordsThrownTogether is wrong that they are being employed by the aid distribution centres.

it appears that they are working there according to a report but again, it is Netanyahu who is employing them.

Not sure why the detail of who is employing them is so important but each to their own, but the word employ is not the right words to use in this situation

It's honestly confusing enough trying to make sense of Random's posts without you getting involved too.

I meant Netanyahu is paying them, they are not employed by the aid distribution agencies as Random claimed.

It's honestly confusing enough trying to make sense of Random's posts without you getting involved too.
Sometimes it's hard not to....

I know you post an awful lot but anyone can get involved just so you know.

Ok but I would have preferred them to answer seeing as we were in the middle of a discussion. And it was hard enough without you jumping in with a false allegation that I was trying to legitimate the use of the gangs because I’m definitely not.

Honestly just because I completely disagree with most of your posts does not mean I have difficulty communicating. I have zero insecurities about my writing or communication skills, if you want to personally attack me you might want to find a different insult.

It is a pretty blurred situation if violent armed gangs are being paid to work at a centre run by the GHF, they say they work at that centre, they are filmed opening and sorting aid at that centre but you say it doesn’t count because they are being paid by Israel, the country that has hired the GHF in the first place. You see how who is paying the armed gangs might be a bit confusing and also a bit irrelevant if they are carrying our work for them. If an armed gang known for murder, looting, smuggling and other criminal activities turned up at my place of work and said someone paid them to do some work for me I wouldn’t let them in the door. If I did, whether I paid them or not, I could be seen as aiding criminal enterprise. I also would be a bit wary of working with armed murderers and criminals.

Also when I say “people” in a post that does not necessarily point to you. There are many people engaged in defending the GHF and Israel on this thread. Perhaps that is a language thing too.

I too did not realise that this was a two person debate, perhaps we should inform all the pro Israel posters who have been joining in the discussion.

You disagreeing with my posts has zero to do with it. And no, I'm not looking for a reason to attack anyone. I just struggle to make sense of your posts sometimes, like I don't know why someone would declare that a gang "are actually employed by the aid distribution centres" when that isn't right.

Anyway... let's move on.

Can you back yourself up? Where is your proof that enough aid for more than 2 million people for 90days entered the strip before the siege? You never answered yesterday and like I said I am looking forward to seeing the photos of the 45000 trucks that it would have taken to do as you say happened entering the strip. Who was in charge of such a huge operation? Surely it would make most sense for who ever it was that managed to successfully bring and distribute in enough aid to last 90days be in charge of aid day to day.

How can you forget Hind Rajab and her family? They were killed by machine gun fire from a tank.

Yes yes that is right Hamas is better at CGI special effects than Hollywood!
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I did answer. Go back and find it if you wish.

I expect you won’t like the source but if you want to debate it further, please go ahead with your rebuttal.

Any actual evidence though?

There is loads of “actual evidence”
if you’d been following the war from Oct 7th, you wouldn’t need someone to summarise it all. Its in the thousands of videos, and tens of thousands of photos.

Any evidence?

She’s not been forgotten. Just as the Bibas babies are not forgotten.

The right people should be held accountable for their deaths though no?

Deflect, deflect.

Still no evidence though.

Just like the video footage that apparently exists of the IDF sniping kids.

Tumbleweed.

Oh, there’s evidence of that in Gaza and West Bank.
-Videos of it happening
-Videos and photos of immediate aftermath
-Eyewitness reports of the doctors (international, even British ones) reporting on kids sniped by IDF that they have treated.

Yes here is one of many investigations, they all came to the same conclusion, Hind Rajab and her family were killed by an IDF tank.
https://forensic-architecture.org/investigation/the-killing-of-hind-rajab