Egypt proposes $53bn Gaza rebuild as alternative to Trump plan

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/04/egypt-proposes-53bn-gaza-rebuild-as-alternative-to-trump-plan

Why is it not also very confronting when extremist Israelis show a map where Palestine does not exist at all?

When the Likud part’s founding principle is that Israel is the whole land from the river to the sea?

or, when, as now, together with Trump, the non existence of Palestine is being planned by Netanyahu?

Why was it all right for Netanyahu to do everything he could to prevent the State of Palestine from being recognised, prevent it from existing?

What if there were one state with the river on one side and the sea on the other where both existed?

Or what if Palestine were a free, un-blockaded, un-illegally settled state both in Gaza, by the sea, and in The West Bank, by the river with the two linked?

That's just not the difficult bit. It's really not.

The difficult bit is getting from the point where Israel minimises attacks (attacks which no country could accept) through force and restrictions... to the point where the Palestinians (as an organised force, rather than the occasional individual) choose not to attack Israel even when they can. And where Israel can depend on that Palestinian choice sufficiently to stop their force and restrictions.

And that change can only come from the Palestinians.

(And no, the fairytale of 'just lift the restrictions' doesn't wash. Many previous wars - before the restrictions were in place - have shown that. And October 7th put an absolute stop to it ever being tried again).

I'm not saying that this is difficult to give Israel a free pass. I'm saying that it's difficult because it is. There have been 75 years of peace summits and negotiations - huge amounts of money and effort spent by the US and other countries - and peace is further away not closer.

If the Arab states think they can succeed, good luck to them. I just won't hold my breathe.

I've already said the plan sounds great but the problem is Hamas agreeing to leave. Who actually thinks they will go
They love power, they are evil, their leaders love money and hoard lots of it. Can anyone actually see them releasing hostages, putting down weapons and going. 🙄

The broader question really, is 'who are Hamas?' I'm not sure what 'The removal of Hamas' looks like in this context.

30% of Palestinians support Hamas. More than that supported October 7th and still support getting rid of Israel through violence.

In a war context, 'the removal of Hamas' is clearer: it's about removing organised military capability and leadership. That makes sense.

But in a governing context? In a security context? If the same person - with the same ideas and motives, but a different coloured rosette - is running the show, is Israel any safer?

Answers for the Arab states to find...

Having said that, it would be a good start if anyone previously employed by Hamas was barred from office or any position of responsibility within the community, such as teaching, law, civil service etc. As happened in the de-natzification of Germany after WWII

Maybe alongside education - and time - that would be enough. Again, like German denazification.

Obviously in the meantime, complete demilitarisation would be necessary too.

I do genuinely hope the Arab states can make it happen.

Ah, I misunderstood your point, sorry.

30% of the population isn't going.

Maybe surrender of weapons then, dismantling of Hamas structure.