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Conflict in the Middle East

Every war is a war against children.

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Auvergne63 · 20/11/2024 18:38

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2024/11/20/an-a-z-of-the-children-israel-killed-in-gaza

More than 17,000 children have lost one or both parents: by UNICEF
We are witnessing a genocide in real time: by Spokesperson for the Defense for Children International - Palestine
Every day, 10 children lose one or both legs, with operations and amputations conducted with little or no anaesthesia due to Israel’s continuing siege: by Save the Children
Without safe water, many more children will die from deprivation and disease: by UNICEF Executive Director Catherine Russell
Children are more at risk of dehydration, and malnourishment can further speed up the effects of having no water: by UNICEF
Gaza is once again “the most dangerous place in the world to be a child”: by UNICEF Executive Director Catherine Russell

I have no words.

An A-Z of the children Israel killed in Gaza

Israeli attacks have killed at least 17,400 children in Gaza. That is one child killed every 30 minutes.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2024/11/20/an-a-z-of-the-children-israel-killed-in-gaza

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Dulra · 21/11/2024 10:08

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I am not anti Israel. I am anti Netanyahu and the current Israeli governments actions in Gaza. I don't blame Israelis for the actions of their government just like I don'ts blame Palestinians for the actions of Hamas.

Absolutely the parents of today’s Palestinian children are responsible for voting in Hamas
Responsible for voting in Hamas nearly 20 years ago yes. Responsible for their children's murders no.

ShortCircuited · 21/11/2024 10:08

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Dulra · 21/11/2024 10:12

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Why are you infantilising the Israeli government? By ignoring any responsibility they have for the situation in Gaza? Hamas are responsible for the terrorist attack in Israel and taking the hostages, the Israeli government are responsible for their actions in Gaza.

ShortCircuited · 21/11/2024 10:15

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 09:57

Nothing I said is vile. But it's resulted in slurs, insults and disgusting antisemitism. I'm not Jewish and I have no idea what these extreme right wing parts of the Internet are supposed to be - I'm inclined to see the hyperbole as an attempt to shut the conversation down. In fact, the only extremism I see is on these boards. It's almost as though some people want there to be a genocide. Well I don't and I'm glad there isn't and if that makes me vile something has gone very wrong.

Absolutely.

Daftasabroom · 21/11/2024 10:23

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Dulra · 21/11/2024 10:25

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 09:57

Nothing I said is vile. But it's resulted in slurs, insults and disgusting antisemitism. I'm not Jewish and I have no idea what these extreme right wing parts of the Internet are supposed to be - I'm inclined to see the hyperbole as an attempt to shut the conversation down. In fact, the only extremism I see is on these boards. It's almost as though some people want there to be a genocide. Well I don't and I'm glad there isn't and if that makes me vile something has gone very wrong.

You still haven't pointed out the information you have for the population rise in Gaza since Israel invaded? which seems to be your argument against genocide.

But it's resulted in slurs, insults and disgusting antisemitism.
Where?

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 10:55

I really wish posters who are happy with Israel's slaughter of tens of thousands of precious Gazan children would have the decency to keep away from threads like these.

It's disgusting.

Usernamesareboring1 · 21/11/2024 11:06

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 09:57

Nothing I said is vile. But it's resulted in slurs, insults and disgusting antisemitism. I'm not Jewish and I have no idea what these extreme right wing parts of the Internet are supposed to be - I'm inclined to see the hyperbole as an attempt to shut the conversation down. In fact, the only extremism I see is on these boards. It's almost as though some people want there to be a genocide. Well I don't and I'm glad there isn't and if that makes me vile something has gone very wrong.

Asking you to provide the source for this rhetoric that is posted here regularly (that not a single poster has provided evidence for) is the opposite of shutting down conversation, it's asking you to engage further in conversation.

Auvergne63 · 21/11/2024 11:09

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 09:57

Nothing I said is vile. But it's resulted in slurs, insults and disgusting antisemitism. I'm not Jewish and I have no idea what these extreme right wing parts of the Internet are supposed to be - I'm inclined to see the hyperbole as an attempt to shut the conversation down. In fact, the only extremism I see is on these boards. It's almost as though some people want there to be a genocide. Well I don't and I'm glad there isn't and if that makes me vile something has gone very wrong.

Believe what you want. Ignore facts as much as you want; they won't go away.
“In the age of information, ignorance is a choice.” – Donald Miller

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Auvergne63 · 21/11/2024 11:14

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 10:55

I really wish posters who are happy with Israel's slaughter of tens of thousands of precious Gazan children would have the decency to keep away from threads like these.

It's disgusting.

It is.

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EasterIssland · 21/11/2024 11:16

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Does this apply to Israel citizens as well and for choosing the government that let them down on 7-10? Is it Israeli citizens fault that they’ve such useless government?

stormy4319trevor · 21/11/2024 11:57

@ShortCircuited I can't see how punishing children for the mistakes of a previous generation is logical or moral?

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 12:14

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu and former defence minister Yoav Gallant for crimes against humanity in Gaza.

I hope these war criminals are eventually caught and brought before the courts for what they've done.

Kakeandkake · 21/11/2024 12:17

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 12:14

The International Criminal Court has issued arrest warrants for Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu and former defence minister Yoav Gallant for crimes against humanity in Gaza.

I hope these war criminals are eventually caught and brought before the courts for what they've done.

About time they did.

Kakeandkake · 21/11/2024 12:18

Took off the profanity even though it is well deserved.

ConstanceM · 21/11/2024 12:47

International arrest warrants for Netanayu and his deputy is a positive step. Get them in the Hague. If he comes to the UK he HAS to be arrested otherwise our words means nothing and we will be denying international law which we bang on about regarding Russia's illegal incursion into Ukraine. We can't have it both ways.

EasterIssland · 21/11/2024 12:49

About time they did it!

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:37

Who's happy? I'm not. On the contrary, I'm happy to see that recent figures are suggesting the death toll of children is far lower than originally estimated. I don't believe anyone claimed 'tens of thousands' anyway, not even Hamas. But the sense I get from these threads isn't humanitarian compassion, it's people gagging for drama.

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 13:37

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:32

🙄 they're estimates. The methodology is at the bottom of the page. And they're estimating the entire state of Palestine.

If you actually think that the population of Gaza is increasing I just give up.

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 13:38

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:37

Who's happy? I'm not. On the contrary, I'm happy to see that recent figures are suggesting the death toll of children is far lower than originally estimated. I don't believe anyone claimed 'tens of thousands' anyway, not even Hamas. But the sense I get from these threads isn't humanitarian compassion, it's people gagging for drama.

Can you post a link to the death toll being lower?

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:41

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 13:37

🙄 they're estimates. The methodology is at the bottom of the page. And they're estimating the entire state of Palestine.

If you actually think that the population of Gaza is increasing I just give up.

Gaza is a war zone. Much of it has been evacuated. The numbers are from a reliable spurce. If the figures showed the population to be decreasing I guarantee there'd be no quibbles about estimates and methodology. No one questioned the oulandish and completely unevidenced claim that 'tens of thousands' of children have been killed - of course not.

Lalaloveya · 21/11/2024 13:42

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:41

Gaza is a war zone. Much of it has been evacuated. The numbers are from a reliable spurce. If the figures showed the population to be decreasing I guarantee there'd be no quibbles about estimates and methodology. No one questioned the oulandish and completely unevidenced claim that 'tens of thousands' of children have been killed - of course not.

Evacuated to where? You mean ethnically cleansed internally?

Usernamesareboring1 · 21/11/2024 13:42

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:37

Who's happy? I'm not. On the contrary, I'm happy to see that recent figures are suggesting the death toll of children is far lower than originally estimated. I don't believe anyone claimed 'tens of thousands' anyway, not even Hamas. But the sense I get from these threads isn't humanitarian compassion, it's people gagging for drama.

Sorry but that link is not backing up what you say at all. Please link the proof for your claim that the population of Gaza has risen overall since this genocide started.

Alltheprettyseahorses · 21/11/2024 13:44

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