What would Keir Starmer do if a group of Norwegians supported by the Norwegian government invaded tomorrow killing thousands?

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Raping them, brining children, taking hostages then held them for a year. Then promised they would do it again and again any time they had the power or chance.

Do you think we'd invade Norway?

Do you think we'd have domestic or international support?

I think the Norwegians used to do that, taking away women and children as slaves and slaughtering men or taking the holy men back as slaves as well as raping them. I am certain the situation was not resolved by invading them back and killing them all as well as spreading the warfare to other Norwegian supporters such as Denmark, Sweden and Iceland.

I guess we have a previous example of a response that is more recent.

September 11th. Thousands died. The US then launched their war on terror. Eventually they tracked down the then leader and killed him.

Whatever our response would be, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't involve committing genocide.

Back in the days of the vikings we didn't have the means to attack back.

The Spanish Armada we fought back.

We fought the French.

More recent history we fought the Germans who invaded France and launched attacks against various countries including us.

I actually think that if ww2 had happened today, we absolutely would not win...in fact, maybe no one would and it would just go on forever. The whole thing would be shown on social media and people would be up in arms at what they'd be seeing. War is ugly but pre the tech revolution, people were shielded from many of the sights unless they were directly affected.

War is awful.

Millions died in the world wars. MILLIONS.

Yes I know. Where did I say otherwise ?What's your point?

As is usual on these threads, misunderstanding.

Just read what I said.

I never said you said otherwise. I was just agreeing war is awful.

Oh i see...I misunderstood. Thanks for clarifying.

Thank you for asking this! I also wondered what the point of brining the kids was. Also, as an invading force, you'd have to carry an awful lot of salt for that......

Well said.

When was Britain invaded by France?

1066?

To be fair Norway might want to reclaim Shetland and Orkney as its only been about 700 years- and then they could move to the Western Isles, send some settlers to York, flatten Manchester and assassinate Andy Burnham.
The brined children just the start of it

UK didn't exist, Britain was a geographic region not a country. Duke of Normandy was French but England wasn't invaded by the King of France.

A bit pedantic I know. Also the Vikings actually did invade were largely from Denmark.

Arguably the last English (Angle-ish?!?) monarch was Harold in 1066

Nelson was preserved in rum. Maybe something we picked up from the Vikings.

Not pedantic, accurate.

@MrsSkylerWhite I did fact check myself before posting and came across the utterly grim Royal Navy phrase of "sucking the monkey".

I get where you're going with this and I can see the UK immediately carpet bombing Norway, imprisoning thousands of Norwegians and destroying vital infrastructure. We'd also try to herd them into Sweden so we can live there, and starve them.

I guess I wasn't aware we had been denying Norwegians basic human rights, that our soldiers based in Norway had been killing Norwegians, that we had been blockading their ports , that British citizens had been using violence to move Norwegians out of their homes and move in themselves

So as to what Keir would do - I guess the first thing would be to launch an investigation as to why all our horrific actions had been covered up and for how long

Kick someone endlessly then acting hurt and surprised when they kick back is such arrogant behaviour

Well lets see ! Did the english invaded first kicked the danish out of their homes gave them no rights and kept killing them periodically over decades ?

The Normans?

Was Britain holding the Norwegians in a state of perpetual state of apartheid and illegally settling on Norwegian land first? Also was part of Norway given to Britain despite the protestations of the natives?

See up thread.

If it doesn't have to be France, William of Orange 1688.

Not before killing 4 million Iraqis, creating a power vacuum and leading to the rise of ISIS and instability in the area. Then killing millions of Afghans and finally putting the Taliban getting back into power.

all the while ignoring invading Saudi Arabia where the leader and most of the terrorists were from.

It is like if Norway destroys the London Eye we destroy France because a Parisian waiter was rude to Starmer’s wife and then half heartedly dropping a few bombs on Oslo.