Boycotting Israeli products/services

[the7Vabo]

I’m trying my best to support the boycott. For those doing the same - what products/services are you using instead?

The hardest one for me has been giving up on going to Disney Paris next year. I had planned it as a joint birthday present, kids will be the perfect age. But I can’t stand in Disney with my kids knowing they support a regime killing kids.

Any good alternatives to Disney, or any other brand on the list?

@sprigatito

You obviously missed the post where someone had said they’d been targeted by the boycott for running a Jewish business in the U.K. This is such a dangerous, slippery process. I telly feel the boycott is fanning the flames of division.

This feeling is only increased by the comments on this thread. I very much get the feeling that lots of posters feel like Israel got what is deserved on October 7th and would be happy to leave the hostages where they are.

We also didn't attempt to wipe out the entire population of NI in order to dissolve the IRA
(despite multiple assassination attempts on our prime ministers, an actual assassination of an MP and dozens of bombings killing over 60 civilians including children, infants and a pregnant women).

Fluffy? . . . . . Fluffy? . . . . are you there @fluffy90 ?

No, I didn't miss it, but you may have missed my pointing out that it is a different phenomenon from posters boycotting Israeli goods and services for legitimate political reasons. Attempting to conflate a peaceful act of protest - people exercising their right not to contribute to humanitarian atrocities - with a generalised hatred and persecution of Jews - is disingenuous and doesn't achieve what you clearly think it does.

Funny how it's only a problem for you when an Israeli chants it back to you.

Pathetic response - it was in the Likud charter in the 1970s well before Hamas even existed. You clearly have no answer for all the wrongs Israel perpertrates such as illegal settlements in the West Bank. Israel deserves far more than just boycotts - it is being tried for genocide in the International Court and it deserves to be found guilty for its inexcusable behaviour

@sprigatito You are part of the same movement. This is what people don’t get. In a situation this complex you cannot be applying pressure willy nilly as absolutely amateurs with nothing but social media sound bites and half an idea.

Actions have consequences. We are seeing that play out right now. The only way to stop it is to start de escalating, not leaning in to boycotts and mud slinging and ‘whatabouts’.

I will believe that the boycotters truly want peace when the stop slinging evidence that suggests they think October 7th was a justified attack.

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party

Likud doesn't want to concede Israel to a group of people intent on sending them into extinction.i don't think it's unreasonable to defend themselves against such a threat. What would you expect our government do if the French suddenly decided to end the years of peace we've lived through and reignite the centuries of war.

But as I said in my earlier comments I do not condone breaching human rights.

You must be furious at Israel's behaviour in the last 8 months then.

I see you have avoided the question with deflection. I agree with the UN Secretary General - whose views about Israel's behaviour reflect the majority of the world, given how increasingly isolated Israel is internationally now

@PearlKoala

What you are doing is not peaceful. You are whipping up hate online under the guise of concern about Gaza. Someone had already pointed out that this has spilled over into this country and Jewish business in the U.K. are being targeted by the boycott but you still seem to think that what you are doing is a victimless crime.

Boycotting Israeli carrots is going to do nothing to end the war but make people feel smug. It’s the worst kind of slacktivism. Posting about the boycott online is a step worse because it feeds a narrative that Israel is the only one in control of ending the war and then bringing up all the instances where the IDF have done something in Gaza just seems like justification for why it is okay to not like Israel and Israelis.

Don’t you see how you are feeding into a divisive narrative? Don’t you see how this is keeping those fires burning and the hate raging?

I recognise there is some level of injustice to regular people by boycotting products from Israel.

However, I believe the benefits caused by boycotting outweigh the tiny level of harm that is caused by it.

Boycotting provides a legitimate and peaceful way to oppose the slaughter in Gaza, and the atrocities happening in the West Bank.

I’ll save my outrage for those who commit violence against innocent people, while wrecking their economy and infrastructure, to the point they start dying of starvation.

Does anyone know of any Israeli companies that are openly critical of the response in Gaza? I could buy from them.

Years of peace? In Israel/Gaza/West Bank?

When was that then?

They mean "years of peace" where Israeli civilians weren't at risk of anything worse than the odd makeshift rocket. Not peace for Palestinians who have had decades of being murdered/beaten/burned out of their homes/imprisoned in torture prisons without charge.

Completely agree. People who claim others should not make legitimate criticism of Israel through legitimate means such as boycotts and talking about it on forums such as this because it is "divisive" are best ignored on the grounds that that is ridiculous. I also have not time for whataboutery. My parents marched against S. Africa and supported that boycott because, although we are not black, as they said, civil rights are everyone's fight. Similarly although I am not Palestinean, I will speak up for them because human rights are everyone's fight and it is important the innocent people who live there know they are not alone

Can I answer this as I stated the thread.

Right now as in today Israel is killing significant numbers of the people of Gaza including children. Their homes have been reduced to rubble, the hospitals bombed, they have been chased from one end of Gaza to the other and bombed all the way. And many are also sick and starving.

I will do what I can to protest that.

I don’t agree with what happened on October 7th, that was wrong and what is happening now in Gaza is wrong.

From an Israeli standpoint IMO Hamas holding hostages does not give Israel a licence to kill and injure thousands of people. It’s utterly barbaric.

Im in no way anti Jewish, I completely accept that Jewish people are subject to discrimination in the world and that they need something that feels like a homeland.

I wouldn’t target a Jewish business in the UK nor would I encourage anyone to. I accept that some people may and I have huge empathy with that. It is awful, but it is not little children dying under rubble.

i am open to correction but as far as I’m aware the Israeli mission is to “wipe out Hamas”, they seem to rescue hostages as a sideshow. It is impossible to wipe out a terrorist organisation and they are probably currently experiencing a huge recruitment wave.

Demonising the state of Israel leads to violence against Jews.

When you participate in BDS, you embolden the Jew haters.

You can tell yourself that it's gonna influence the war in Gaza, but it's really not.

The West will never dismantle a sovereign state & the only democracy in the ME.

Anyone can produce carrots. Not everywhere can do high tech, defense, med tech etc.

Agriculture isn't a significant percentage of Israel's GDP.

Feel free to give up your smart phones if using Israeli technological advances bothers you so much.

https://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/bullet-impacts-found-on-another-jewish-school-montreal-police-say

I think you’ve missed the point. People are boycotting because children are literally being blown to pieces every day. The same children who were living in Gaza boxed in by Israel. The same children that Israel is deliberately starving to death.

As has been pointed out numerous times on this thread boycotting is not a new form of protest and it has worked in the past.

Im not aiming to dismantle the state of Israel what I would them to do is to stop blowing little children to bits.

No they're not. They are boycotting for other reasons as we very well know.

However, they can't bear to give up their Israeli tech mobile phones.

Yes, I will repeat ad infinitum.

Hamas are the government of Gaza, voted in in the last election they allowed, in 2005. The people who voted for them apparently didn’t mind the call in Hamas's founding charter for the murder of all Jews.

The IRA have never been the government of Ireland.